WILLIAMS/CRIPPS/FLETCHER/COOMBE/LEADER - Abingdon area mostly

[jen_maxsgirl]

Hi Debbie

Thanks for all the 1841 & 1851 info.

Also the will of Benjamin from 1792.  It fits in well with the info I have, allowing for misspellings.  Anna Williams (1747 to 13 oct 1825) m 1872 to 'J Hines' who died in 7/10/1808.
Mary W 1749-8/10/1774 m in jun year u/k to William Pey who died 27/9/1794

Charles Bailey Williams possibly son Theophilius Williams & ? Bailey.  Theo died 1837.

I found John O Williams near Torquay on 61 & 71 census

Further surnames from marriages probably 1720-1740 are Hutt, Hunt, Sparrowhawk, Ricketts, Peck, Ridge & Warman

[mrstucci]

I'm back- I am trying to sort through all the Williams' and jen___maxsgirl, you asked how I came by the information about Elizabeth Buckland. I got it from someone I have been corresponding with for several years now who is doing research on the Williams family. I don't have his source but he said that Elizabeth Williams who married Edward Leader, her younger brother Benjamin Williams married Elizabeth Buckland. I will write to him to verify. So I have a question about James Williams b 1812- he is the son of Benjamin Williams and Sarah Edgington? James married Matilda Cook? Now where does Theophilius fit in? And Josiah? I hope I can keep this all straight! Have a good day! Judy

[jen_maxsgirl]

Hi
It is possible that Benjamin Williams had two marriages.  As none of the marriages appear on the IGI

Edward Leader Williams had his eldest daughter called Sarah Edgington Williams which suggests she was called after her grandmother.

also Benjamin's daughter Sarah born 1802 had a son Benjamin Edgington Fletcher.

It would be good if someone out there can find Benjamin's marriage(s).  I suspect that they are connected to the chapel,

On the IGI there is a Sarah Edgington baptised as a teenager  at a meeting house in Abingdon in 1792 with birth given as 1779 which fits.

Benjamin & Sarah are on the 1841 census together.

[mrstucci]

Thanks for that info. I will attempt to untangle all this..... :->  Judy

[Jennylibrarian]

Hi,
I'm new to this site, but came across it because I did a search for North Court, Abingdon on google and found this thread.  It's quite hard to follow all the ins and outs of the people you're talking about, but my gggg grandmother was Mary Fletcher, married to Samuel Williams.  I'm related on my maternal side via their daughter Martha Williams m to James Collier; their daughter Martha Leader Collier m to Charles Hemming and so on down the female line.

I have a family tree done about 30 years ago which concurs with your discussions, although it doesn't go back quite as far.  I have Benjamin Williams married first to Elizabeth Buckland who died 21 Feb 1800 and then to Sarah Edgington on 23 Dec 1800 from whom he had all those children!

I actually have a couple of photos of North Court, taken circa 1865 (according to the writing on the back)  One has 2 women in it and it says on the back "Grandma Green in the seat at North Court, Abingdon (Elizabeth Leader Williams Collier).  But as the inscription is probably later than the photo and there seems some confusion which Elizabeth it is, I'm not sure how reliable it is.  I'm happy to attach a copy if anyone is interested (my scanner is broken so it'll have to be a digital photo).

I also have a portrait of Martha Collier (Hemming), although that might not be of interest as it's later than most of the people you're discussing (1860s?) so probably not such a close relative, but I'm happy to photograph that and attach it if it is of interest.  I'd be interested to know more about your investigations and how you fit in.

Regards,
Jenny

[mrstucci]

Hi Jennie- Anything you have on Martha and any pictures are most welcome! I am so, so happy to meet you. Another piece of the puzzle!!! Mary Fletcher was my 4ggrandmother. Do you by any chance have any info on Mary's parents, Thomas and Elizabeth Baggs Fletcher? I have a website that you can visit that has my Fletcher info on it but I can't say that I have it all straight on there either- I am afraid I have been a bit confused now and then about it all but you can visit my site if you like: www.ourfamilynearandfar.net. I am so glad you found this site, take care, Judy

[VivSonntag]

Anyone researching these names in the Berkshire County area? Love to hear from you!!! Judy

I have a Mary Leader, born in Rotherfield Greys (Oxfordshire) who married Aaron Gorton in 1890.  They had two children before Aaron died in 1895 and Mary married George Summersby.  Any help to you

Viv

[mrstucci]

Hi Viv! Sorry I am so tardy in replying- didn't realize that there was a new reply to this forum. As for your Mary Leader, I don't have any Leaders that recent. I don't have much on the Leader line. The area is right but I can't fit her in yet. You can take a look at my website to see if she might fit in somewhere if you like: www.ourfamilynearandfar.net.

Take care, Judy

[Max_Ick]

Hi

I'm new to genealogy and this site so please bear with me. I am a Williams born in Abingdon. I have some info about my ancestors and their ocupations. Reading through this thread shows up some similarities but also some names I haven't heard of. James Williams, Thomas Williams, Walter Williams are in my line. Likewise Hilda, Emma and Emma Kate. Occupations are butcher, fishmonger, Pub landlord (Black Bull in Stert Street), Furniture shop in St Helens. The butcher line came down through Walter to my dad and his brothers. I am away working at the moment but when I get home I will look up dates etc and see if they tie in. In the meantime, does any of this info make sense to anyone?

Max