Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton

[pimplezoo]

Bridget's baptism has her mother's maiden name as Cocklin.
Could this be another child born to Henry and Sarah .........

Sarah Norton born 26 July 1852, bap 1 Aug 1852, St Patrick.
Transcript has Sarah as Coughton but image looks like Coughlin
Godparents Michael and Eliza Nowlan

Hi,

i do remember saving that in my shoe box, problem is i can't find anything from 1861 to confirm anything about Bridget! she just seems to disappear for about 30-40 years!!

Also, does anyone have a theory why there is no record of Bridget's marriage to Samuel Stone? On their child together Catherine Stone baptism record in 1898 it has her as Bridget Stone (olim Norton.) Judging that his previous wife Margaret died about 1893 it must be between those dates but i can not find any record of a marriage between the two?

[pimplezoo]

Hi,

i know this post is old but after a bit of a break i have come back to the illusive Bridget Norton.

Going off her sons (Henry Norton aka Stone) marriage cert. he had a witness named Arthur Norton which i believe is her brother. I am now more than certain that her father was Michael Norton and not Henry etc.

Bridget born abt 1854
Arthur born abt 1856

They both have catholic baptisms at St Marys, Lancashire. The problem is the first names are latinised as they were Catholics. Very confusing.

Parents Michael Norton and Mary (Mclinn) on Bridgets
           Michaelis Norton and Margaritae (Macklin) on Arthurs

But still with this information i cannot find Bridget (and now Arthur) in any of the census records in the subject title and record of her marriage to Samuel Stone (his 3rd marriage.)

Sorry if this is not making sense?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen

[pimplezoo]

Sorry, just to add...

On Arthur Nortons Catholic marriage cert.(m Sarah Joyce- July 1881) it lists his parents as  Michaelis Naughton and Mariae Naughton.

Thanks

Stephen

[jacquelineve]

Stephen
             Just to add to the confusion...

1861 census Liverpool  RG9/2665  folio59  page 56

Thomas Rothwell        30   Ireland
Mary     Rothwell         38  Liverpool
Mary Ann Houghton    10   ...........
Bridget     ...........       8   ............
Arthur     ..............     6    ............ (Houghton mis-transcribed?

1871 Liverpool RG10/3770  folio 54    page 50
All named Rothwell -Mary widow-Bridget has become Bessie

Can't find a Rothwell Houghton(var) marriage or Houghton birth reg's

Two Michael Norton deaths reg at Liverpool -both Dec.qtrs-1855 and 1857

Jackie

[jacquelineve]

These birth registrations appear to tie up with Rothwell-Houghton family in 1861 census Liverpool

Norton
Mary Ann 1851-McLynn
Bridget    1854-McLinn
Arthur     1856-Macklin

1881 census still living in Liverpool (Rothwell)

Jackie

[josey]

Great work, Jackie; looks like you may have cracked it!!

I looked at all the marriages of a Thomas Rothwell to a Mary in Lancashire, no McLynn or variations either. Maybe no (official) marriage.....

ADDED:

author=jacquelineve link=topic=735576.msg6273820#msg6273820 date=149874978
Two Michael Norton deaths reg at Liverpool -both Dec.qtrs-1855 and 1857

NORTON, MICHAEL       Age 65     
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 171
NORTON, MICHAEL       Age 36     
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 113
So 1857 most likely.

[pimplezoo]

Thanks so so much. This is amazing and terrifying that i may have found them at the same time!!

But it also throws up so many more questions!!

A quick check seems to verify they have a sister Mary Ann Norton born 1851- i have just found her marriage banns to a Thomas Henry Johnson on 16 Sept 1879 and it states her father as Michael Norton. It doesn't mention him being deceased as it also doesn't on Arthur's catholic marriage cert. though i'm not sure if they would mentioned that back then? They are living at Great Crosshall Street at the time according to this.

Also i just double checked Bridget's baptism record and her Godfather is a gentleman called William Macklin.

It does seem way too much of a coincidence the names and age of the siblings on these census records for it not to be them but why would they be called Rothwell on these census records for so many years but then when Arthur appears on 1891 census as  Head he is back to Norton and Bridget calls herself Norton on her sons birth certificate 1891.

Again, Thank You for all your help

Stephen

[Dundee]

It is just a census, it doesn't mean they actually ever used or were commonly known by that surname.  Some families gave the individual surnames of the children if they were from multiple relationships but many couldn't be bothered giving that information to the enumerator.

[pimplezoo]

Hi

I recently received Bridget and Arthur's birth certificates. It has their mother as
Mary Norton late Conlin formerly McLinn (Macklin on Arthur's)

Does that mean her maiden name is McLinn/Macklin and she is a widow married name Conlin?

Thanks

Stephen