Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton

[pimplezoo]

Hi,

I am struggling to find Bridget Norton on the above census records.

In 1901 she is known as Bridget Stone and has married Samuel Stone. I also cannot find any record of marriage between the two though?

The census 1901 + 1911 state that she was born circa 1854. i know this is definitely her as she is the mother of Henry Norton born 1891. i have his birth certificate which has no father listed and his mother as just Bridget Norton (no maiden name.) i also have his Baptism record which states he changed his surname to Stone when marrying in 1920- i also have this marriage certificate which states his father as Samuel Stone (deceased) but on the 1901 census Samuel Stone is his step father and he is known as Henry Norton and still Henry Norton 1911.

Finding Henry was hard enough as i knew him as Henry Stone- when i made the break through and found out he was actually Norton i thought it would be easy to work back from there but Bridget has proved impossible for me to find.

I have found a baptism record which could possibly be her- born Liverpool 1854, Father Henry Norton and mother Sarah- but then there is no record of her in any census 1861-1891!

On Henry's birth cert in 1891 it states he was born at 36, 14 ho (?) Brook Street, Liverpool. But he was born after the 1891 census was taken and when searching that street on the 1891 census Bridget does not appear on that street!

I don't know if i am over thinking everything now i can't find any record of her but having her first child at 37 and then later having a second child with Samuel Stone (Catherine Stone born 1898) at 44 just seems quite old to me?

Also going back to Henry's marriage certificate, one of the witnesses is Arthur J Norton (i am 99% sure that it says Arthur) so that is possibly a relation of Bridget?

i hope someone can help me

Thanks

Stephen

[Milliepede]

I have found a baptism record which could possibly be her- born Liverpool 1854, Father Henry Norton and mother Sarah- but then there is no record of her in any census 1861-1891!

Have you found these possible parents in 1861 etc?  It's possible Bridget is there but under a nick name or something 

Any other baptisms for those same parents ie siblings?

[Milliepede]

What date was the baptism? 

There are 2 births recorded for that name in Liverpool 1854 - one registered Mar and one Dec.

There's a Catholic baptism in Liverpool parents Michael and Mary 22 Mar 1854

[avm228]

I see from Henry Norton's Catholic baptism (14 July 1891, born 10 June 1891) that his godmother was a Maria (or Mary) Riley.  Possibly worth keeping a note of her for later reference.

Have you traced a death for Samuel Stone's wife Margaret (whom he was with in 1891)?

[pimplezoo]

I haven't been able to find those possbile parents on any census records? it is very frustrating

The baptism with Father as Henry Stone is birth 25th Sept bap 5 Oct 1854- only reason i felt this could be the strongest possibility is that she called her son Henry?

The other baptism record has Father as Michael and mother as Mary 22 Mar 1854.

going back to Arthur Norton on her sons marriage marriage cert. there is a  baptism record for a Arthur Norton born 1856 to Michael Norton but his mother is down as Margaret- and again they don't seem to appear on any census record- Arthur appears on census records from 1881-1911. but i don't know for sure if he is related to Bridget or not?

[Milliepede]

This sounds a bit mad so please feel free to disprove but looking at Annie Stone who is 13 in 1901.

In 1891 she is 3 with Samuel Stone and Margaret Stone - was Margaret his first wife or is Margaret actually the same person as Bridget?  Birth year and place the same.

 

[avm228]

This sounds a bit mad so please feel free to disprove but looking at Annie Stone who is 13 in 1901.

In 1891 she is 3 with Samuel Stone and Margaret Stone - was Margaret his first wife or is Margaret actually the same person as Bridget?  Birth year and place the same.

 

Samuel Stone (clerk, 25) married Margaret Hamill (19) in Liverpool on 24 Nov 1870.

Both resident at 34 Strawberry Bank.

His father: Richard Stone, miller.
Her father: James Hamill, joiner.


Newlyweds together in 1871 (with "mother-in-law" Martha) at RG10/3847/57/22.

[pimplezoo]

I have a record of a Margaret Smith marrying a Samuel Stone in 1875. there is a record of death for a Margaret Stone in apr-jun 1893 aged 40

[Milliepede]

It is confusing isn't it. 

Could it be Bridget and her parents appear on Irish census in her earlier years?