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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 19 November 15 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Through a newspaper article, I finally found the 1877 death record for one of my relatives.
She never married and died at the age of 76yrs in the SAME house where she was born.

No less than 23 Ancestry trees have her married off to a randomer and all show a death date of 1885.

Moreover, this man's wife doesn't even fit the profile for my relative.
Slightly different 1st name ( Janet rather than Jane) and she has a completely different place of birth.

That's 23 researchers who have either the incorrect ancestry or have added incorrect descendants to the correct ancestry!

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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 19 November 15 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Jane: as far as I can see, almost everyone's Irish side proves "tricky"! I've completely given up on all Irish ancestors, and the headaches from bashing my head against that brick wall will subside in time, I believe.
anne-p: I simply think those silly errors multiply, as each lazy researcher simply copies.... they get the inaccurate trees they deserve.
I've several relatives who seem to have been hijacked, over the years, especially as many had similar ages, and the same names as each other.
But it doesn't take that much effort to get it right, nowadays, IF you want to, does it? No more than to get it right.
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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 19 November 15 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Jane: as far as I can see, almost everyone's Irish side proves "tricky"! I've completely given up on all Irish ancestors, and the headaches from bashing my head against that brick wall will subside in time, I believe.


Yes but I got a lot of help from a lovely Irish lass I met on this site. She was able to research and  purchase many certs for me which opened many doors. I got back 3 generations one side and 2 the  other and doing reasonably well myself. The people I contacted could have helped but it wasn't to be.

Never say die!!! I almost gave up but kept at it. Took  years.
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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 19 November 15 21:02 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at trees of people with my ancestors or their siblings in them and they are on the 1871 census after they died and are on the 1880 US census then the 1881 UK census, and they were born in Essex, Massachusetts, USA instead of Essex, England. Or Sussex, Delaware, USA instead of Sussex England. Very sloppy research and not double checking the drop down menu. I wont go round constantly telling them of these errors. That is why I am thorough and my tree does not have such glaring mistakes.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I know this is an ongoing problem --- when I look at trees and see someone has been a member of "A"
for a short time & already has thousands of names I do wonder where they came from.

Recently I contacted a lady who was researching one of my ancestry lines which was partly incorrect.
I asked her "where are you getting your info from"
Reply -- " from other An--- trees " surly they can't all be wrong"

This is what she had for my maternal Grandmother -- E.P.S.

Stepdaughter of nephew of wife of 2nd great grand uncle of wife of paternal 1st cousin

If some one can sort out the connection please let me in on it.
ARTHUR -Yorkshire - my brick wall
HINCHCLIFFE/HINCLIFE -Yorkshire -2nd brick wall
HAWES -Cornwall
SIMPSON -Yorkshire Kildwick.
VINEN - Wiltshire -convict
SALT - Hungerford
BURROWS - Edinburgh -convict.
Husbands side
BAXTER -Scotland -Fife
WATSON - Scotland Dunino
SERVICE - Paisley Renfrewshire
LESEBERG - Salzgitter Germany
BRUNKE - Salzgitter Germany

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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Spices, I sympathise have had similar. This topic has been discussed many times here. I have learnt the hard way to walk away and not get wound up. I know I have correct information backed up with certs etc.that is all that matters. I cannot be bothered with trophy researchers especially when they are not interested in knowing the truth. Just my opinion, we all deal with the bogus trees in our own way. I am happy to say I have seen the light and don't bother with them any more.

Jane

 
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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Could be some people type into FamilySearch their ancestors name "John Bloggs" born England 1815-1820 and see results for the right man but also see an 1880 US census for a John Bloggs in the USA born England 1816 and think it is him (so then look him up on Ancestry USA and attach the entry as a source) as he hopped along to America then returned to the UK by 1881, totally forgetting to look at the rest of the 1880 household and that man was married to a different spouse and his eldest child was 18 and youngest was 2 and all born USA.

They often just go on someone of the same name, similar age and birth country, which is not enough to assume it is the same person, unless their name was Cornelius Aloysius Nicholas Bracegirdle  ;D.

One ancestor sibling was Emma Finch and there was an Emma Finch in America in 1880 born England, similar age to my Emma. One other tree has my Emma in 1871 and 1881 in Northumberland, England and also the Emma Finch in 1880 in the US as the same person when that is impossible if you look at the rest of the households.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: totally tempted to tell
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:37 GMT (UK) »
I found one yesterday for a great x 2 aunt who had the right marriage for her in 1869 and the right family in 1871 in London. Then for some reason they had another marriage for her in 1874 in a different part of the country. However in 1881 she was back in London with her original husband and with their children born in 1870, 1872, 1874 and 1876. I'm afraid I can't even be bothered to point out such an obvious error.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:44 GMT (UK) »
I found one yesterday for a great x 2 aunt who had the right marriage for her in 1869 and the right family in 1871 in London. Then for some reason they had another marriage for her in 1874 in a different part of the country. However in 1881 she was back in London with her original husband and with their children born in 1870, 1872, 1874 and 1876. I'm afraid I can't even be bothered to point out such an obvious error.

Jan, I think that answers the original question. No, dont be tempted to tell! It's taken me long enough to   arrive at that conclusion but glad I have-at last ;D
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