Tracing the men who jumped ship

[Beg Clonrode...]

his father's occupation etc?

Possibly a miner...

(Again, free-to-view Dropbox link so just X any popups asking you to register)

Name - Born - Parish - County - Arrived - Naturalised - Deceased - Married/Children - Occupation - Notes

Dates are back to front...

http://tinyurl.com/nadltpx

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Just repeating my earlier question... do any of the names/surnames in the probate file ring any bells

Here are the names of some of the children and grandchildren of Erik Gustaff ANDERSON. Do any of these names ring bells in your family history...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-909-50512-186757-21?cc=1865481

Regards
Beg

[jamcat95]

Thanks Beg.

Ian

[jamcat95]

Hi Fiona
Did you get his parent's names from his marriage certificate?

Ian

[Xashus]

I don't have anything else to add. Hus parents names were on the marriage certificate. Fiona

[Xashus]

Hi Beg,
I appear to have two conversations going on at the same time.
Peter Anderson -
Naturalisation record (1901) = born about 1832 in Goeteborg, Sweden.
He married Petrine Peterson Dec 1874 in Le Bon's Bay, Canterbury (no father's details)
Death Record (1918) = supposed to have been in NZ 46 years (arrived about 1872) and he                               was 40 years old when married (that fits with 1832 the birth date).
The family information that I have been given shows that Petter August Anderson had a brother; -Erik Gustaff Anderson who arrived in NZ on the same ship. I am fairly confident that Erik is NOT my Peter Anderson's brother. As far as I am aware, my Peter Anderson had no siblings in NZ. Fiona

[Xashus]

Hi Ian, Frederick is supposed to have been on the same ships as Mary Ann Turner (the Wairoa) which arrived in Wellington, from London, in August 1883.
The marriage certificate shows Frederick was a mariner, while Andrew Lawson and Mary Anderson are recorded as his parents. It also shows his place of birth as Stockholm, Sweden. I have no other records for Frederick, as he died before he could be naturalised. Fiona

[Xashus]

Hi Ian, Frederick is supposed to have been on the same ships as Mary Ann Turner (the Wairoa) which arrived in Wellington, from London, in August 1883.
The marriage certificate shows Frederick was a mariner, while Andrew Lawson and Mary Anderson are recorded as his parents. It also shows his place of birth as Stockholm, Sweden. I have no other records for Frederick, as he died without being naturalised. Fiona

[Beg Clonrode...]

Frederick is supposed to have been on the same ships as Mary Ann Turner (the Wairoa) which arrived in Wellington, from London, in August 1883.

Hi again...

If you have an awful lot of spare money you can order a copy of the 1883 Crew List for the Wairoa. This should show whether or not the family story about the shipboard romance is true.

The Crew List Agreement is what's known as an E2. Here's an example of one...

http://tinyurl.com/qybp2ny

Note crewman no.10... Eric ANDERSON b.1855-ish of Gothenburg, Sweden. It's noted on the next page of the agreement that he deserted in Rio. Maybe if your Frederick deserted in NZ it was noted on the Wairoa's agreement.

Here's the ordering page...

Ordering Copies of Crew Agreements (Crew Lists)
https://www.mun.ca/mha/about/orderagreements.php

The Official Number of the Wairoa was 73621

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Going back over this thread I'm still not 100% clear on the ANDERSON brothers. Is the following right...

There was definitely a Peter (no middle name) ANDERSON who had a brother Eric (no middle name) ANDERSON. Peter was your ancestor. Eric was never in NZ.

And there was also a Petter August ANDERSON who had a brother Erik Gustaff ANDERSON. Both of these brothers were in NZ. Neither of these two brothers are related to you.

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Have you seen the ITM for the 1874 ANDERSON/PETERSON marriage. Might not give any clues but might.

The pre-1881 ITM's are indexed so maybe start a lookup thread... similar to this one...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=686455.msg5306096#msg5306096

Regards
Beg

[Xashus]

I can go into the Archives and have a look at the ITM for Peter Anderson/Petrine Peterson.
I was not aware that Peter had any siblings in NZ and I can see that Erik Anderson is related to a Petter August Anderson (but I don't see that they are part of my family)

I will also have a look through the Police Gazettes which should list any deserters - 
Peter Anderson in Lyttelton and Otago from 1872
Frederick Lawson/Larson off the Wairoa in Wellington 1883
Thanks for your help locating the Official Number of the Wairoa.

Fiona