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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #216 on: Wednesday 30 March 16 16:33 BST (UK) »
Have you still got the frock though ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #217 on: Saturday 04 June 16 21:15 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone would like to have a guess at the purple text for this relative.  She would now be 95 but we can't find her.  She did not retain contact with her daughter who would like to know what happened to her.  It might be a new married name, which could be very helpful.  This does not identify a living individual.  For example the new married name might be Collier looking at the way the purple text lies.
SOM: CREED, HAINE, MURROW, BOND, PORTCH
CRN: SHUGG, BOWDEN, PEARCE, TREWHELLA, HARRIS, HUNTER, RODDA, LOWRY, MARSHALL, BURN, STEPHENS
GLA/CARM: MORTON, MORGAN, EVANS (CADOXTON)
MON: EVANS (BASSALEG)
PEM: FRANCIS, PHILLIPS
DBY: CARLINE, FOX, BAGSHAW, ROBINSON
NBL: GIBSON, DODD, CHARLTON, HEPPELL
CUM: DODD, MOSES
WES: AIREY, BARNETT, MELLRAY, HOLME
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #218 on: Saturday 04 June 16 22:53 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone would like to have a guess at the purple text for this relative.  She would now be 95 but we can't find her.  She did not retain contact with her daughter who would like to know what happened to her.  It might be a new married name, which could be very helpful.  This does not identify a living individual.

It has been totally redacted and impossible to read?
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #219 on: Sunday 12 June 16 10:45 BST (UK) »
The 1939 register 29 Sep 1939 was so people could get food ration cards during WW2. It later became the NHS register and was continually update until 1991. When men or women registered with a doctor  or hospital,  those who changed their name regardless of if they married or not their name was changed in the register. You can see the original name  crossed thru and you can see a new name. There is a date by the new name and when they moved you can see a 3 letter area code. There is a very good approved FB group helping people you might be interested in joining --https://www.facebook.com/groups/204040569927596/


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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #220 on: Sunday 12 June 16 11:08 BST (UK) »
That's much appreciated.
SOM: CREED, HAINE, MURROW, BOND, PORTCH
CRN: SHUGG, BOWDEN, PEARCE, TREWHELLA, HARRIS, HUNTER, RODDA, LOWRY, MARSHALL, BURN, STEPHENS
GLA/CARM: MORTON, MORGAN, EVANS (CADOXTON)
MON: EVANS (BASSALEG)
PEM: FRANCIS, PHILLIPS
DBY: CARLINE, FOX, BAGSHAW, ROBINSON
NBL: GIBSON, DODD, CHARLTON, HEPPELL
CUM: DODD, MOSES
WES: AIREY, BARNETT, MELLRAY, HOLME
NFK: SMITH, FLOWERS, LAIN, MANSER, LANE
IRE: WALSH, CLEARY, DAWSON, CARROLL
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #221 on: Sunday 12 June 16 11:27 BST (UK) »
Not fully accurate Cilia, the decision was made in 1938 by those who thought, or knew, that war was coming that a register of all civilians was necessary: forces personnel of course were already registered when enlisted.  It didn't happen overnight, the Registration Act had to be written and discussed, which of course took months, finally being passed on 5 September 1939.
Yes, it was to subsequently allow for ration cards to be issued, based on numbers in a family for example, but initially to record everyone and issue then with Identity Cards which had to be carried, and shown when requested.

Quite honestly, it is something I wouldn't object to now.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #222 on: Sunday 12 June 16 16:12 BST (UK) »
I'm with you msr on identity cards.  I will never forget, just a few years ago, watching a stage of the Tour de France when two young Dutch lads tried to drive their car in a restricted area.  The French police stopped them and then confiscated their identity cards.  Those lads were as meek as anything, made not a movement until their cards were returned some while later.

Perhaps they should be reinstated here.  I've nothing to hide, so no objections from me.



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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #223 on: Sunday 12 June 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
I agree as well msr and BumbleB - it would make life a lot simpler in many ways, especially for people who don't drive or have a passport. A friend who has neither had huge problems when asked to provide identity. It threw the people who were asking as they didn't know what else was acceptable.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #224 on: Sunday 12 June 16 18:47 BST (UK) »
I agree as well msr and BumbleB - it would make life a lot simpler in many ways, especially for people who don't drive or have a passport. A friend who has neither had huge problems when asked to provide identity. It threw the people who were asking as they didn't know what else was acceptable.

That concept destroys one of the best things about being British, we are free people who don't have to identify ourselves unless we want to.

By the way a couple of years ago I had to purchase a spare key for my BMW from the main dealer, they had to phone Germany to ask permission even though I was a customer of theirs and known by the manager and many of the staff at the dealers.
The permission was refused unless I could produce my driving licence or other photo ID. I said my driving licence was a pre photo licence and I did not have photo ID.

How was the dilemma resolved I sent a text to the dealers from my phone explaining my old key would not set the car alarm and if I was not sold a new key to secure my car I would hold BMW liable.
I had the key delivered to my house the following day, it had been dispatched from Germany under the VOR procedures.
It seems BMW did not want the bad publicity that would have ensued if my car had been stolen.

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PS I learned that trick from an old employer of mine in the 1970s whose Rolls Royce had broken down. He simply abandoned it in the middle of the road, leaving the car keys in the ignition, and phoned the dealership saying it should not have broken down and they better do something about it quick.
The car was quickly recovered, transported thirty miles to the dealer, repaired and transported back to my boss when it was repaired.
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