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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #180 on: Sunday 20 December 15 17:23 GMT (UK) »
I wondered that but they were born in 1922.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #181 on: Sunday 20 December 15 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I didn't actually say what I meant to say. 
I had already viewed the record on 2 Nov and had to relook today as I had buried the printout on my desk. I was amazed to find that an extra person has been unlocked, although I didn't request this. 
Cannot see any reason why this has happened unless someone else has requested it.  So is anyone else looking at Frank and Emily Crane in Ardleigh?

I had similar happen with one of the records. I send death cert and when i looked not only had the records i requested been opened, an extra record had been which was good as i was puzzled as to who 2 of the locked records could be. Turns out that he was probably an evacuee.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #182 on: Monday 21 December 15 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Just checked by Great Grandmother and family again.  My Great Aunt who was born in 1923 and died in 1975 was originally missing and the entry did say only 1 person closed.  She's now visible in the index search but it still says 1 person missing.  That has to be my Great Uncle who was born the end of 1916 and died only 2 years ago.  I know he did serve, as he was injured in a motor cycle accident during the war, but as the original search only said 1 person closed, I'd assumed he must have joined up by then.  As I don't have a copy of his death certificate, and don't really want to purchase a copy, I shall wait until after what would have been his 100th birthday next year and double check. ;)

So they have definitely been revisiting the images because, as I mentioned, when the site was launched the address only had 1 person closed, when in fact it should have said 2, albeit they've since opened up the entry for my Great Aunt.  I doubt that anyone has submitted a copy of her death certificate because she had no descendants and there aren't many of us left within the family anyway.  It seems they may be double checking the death indexes, particularly as in my Great Aunt's case, she died unmarried so her name would be the same and her date of birth is on the death index.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #183 on: Monday 21 December 15 08:41 GMT (UK) »
So they have definitely been revisiting the images because, as I mentioned, when the site was launched the address only had 1 person closed, when in fact it should have said 2, albeit they've since opened up the entry for my Great Aunt.  I doubt that anyone has submitted a copy of her death certificate because she had no descendants and there aren't many of us left within the family anyway.  It seems they may be double checking the death indexes, particularly as in my Great Aunt's case, she died unmarried so her name would be the same and her date of birth is on the death index.

Smudwhisk - have you looked at the image or just the free preview? I've found the preview to be pretty inaccurate with the numbers of records closed - in fact I found one yesterday which said "-1 people closed"! I reckon this is a glitch when closed records are open... so your great uncle may not actually be in the same household, but at least you won't have long to wait until his record is opened :)
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #184 on: Monday 21 December 15 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Smudwhisk - have you looked at the image or just the free preview? I've found the preview to be pretty inaccurate with the numbers of records closed - in fact I found one yesterday which said "-1 people closed"! I reckon this is a glitch when closed records are open... so your great uncle may not actually be in the same household, but at least you won't have long to wait until his record is opened :)

I've just looked at the free preview.  As I know exactly where they were living and all dates of birth, am somewhat uninclined at the moment to pay to view the entry.  But, as you say, I only have a year to wait to see if he appears at the same address in the index. :)
(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #185 on: Monday 21 December 15 11:06 GMT (UK) »
This has been explained several times, but just to reiterate - the £25 charge is levied by TNA, not by FindMyPast.  This is not a case of FindMyPast trying to extort extra money from us.  They are, in fact, trying to help their subscribers by not asking for the £25.

Anyone who isn't a subscriber shouldn't expect the same concession.

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I know that the charge is levied by TNA.

The point is that we are expected to pay for the privilege of improving the content of the register.  A register that FindMyPast, as a commercial organisation, expect to profit from.  They should be encouraging everyone to contribute.  I have nothing to gain by sending in the information that I have, only the satisfaction of perhaps helping others.  I would be willing to do that, but not if I have to pay. 

The immediate beneficiaries of our help would be FindMyPast, as they are the ones selling access to the register.  They are not doing anyone a favour.  The more complete the register can be shown to be, the more attractive it will be to FindMyPast's paying customers.

Whether subscribers to FindMyPast or not, the charge for accessing the register is exactly the same as it is presently a stand-alone facility.   The only difference being that a subscriber can send everything to prove a death and not be charged extra.  Perhaps, if you have a few to open, and already have the certificates (thereby negating the need to purchase those) taking out a subscription could be beneficial.   That way TNA need not be involved so no £25.00 to them.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #186 on: Monday 21 December 15 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Whether subscribers to FindMyPast or not, the charge for accessing the register is exactly the same as it is presently a stand-alone facility.   The only difference being that a subscriber can send everything to prove a death and not be charged extra.  Perhaps, if you have a few to open, and already have the certificates (thereby negating the need to purchase those) taking out a subscription could be beneficial.   That way TNA need not be involved so no £25.00 to them.

A subscription doesn't come cheap!  I can't afford to take out a sub to FindMyPast.  I wouldn't choose it over Ancestry in any case since Ancestry's parish register collection is more suited to my needs.

And I don't stand to gain much by opening any 1939 households.  I have only opened one, but I already know the details of my other relatives who would feature in it.  It will be interesting to have a general browse around once it's available on a full sub, but not at this stage.

So my point stands.  I would be happy to send in documentation to help release wrongly locked entries, but I'm not prepared to pay anyone for the privilege.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #187 on: Monday 21 December 15 16:32 GMT (UK) »
A subscription doesn't come cheap!  I can't afford to take out a sub to FindMyPast.  I wouldn't choose it over Ancestry in any case since Ancestry's parish register collection is more suited to my needs.

A subscription is a bit beyond my means too, so I use my local library... has anyone tried submitting proof of death through a library subscription? I'm guessing this isn't possible but I haven't tried.
I've paid myself for 5 households (as the library subscription doesn't cover 1939), so it would be nice if Findmypast enabled pay-per-view people the chance to submit proof of death too.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #188 on: Monday 21 December 15 16:42 GMT (UK) »

A subscription is a bit beyond my means too, so I use my local library... has anyone tried submitting proof of death through a library subscription? I'm guessing this isn't possible but I haven't tried.
I've paid myself for 5 households (as the library subscription doesn't cover 1939), so it would be nice if Findmypast enabled pay-per-view people the chance to submit proof of death too.

I don't think it would be possible as you have to provide a link to a copy of the death cert held on your personal computer.
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