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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #99 on: Monday 16 November 15 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Lizzie - I think I read somewhere on here that someone had send details to FindMyPast but had the reply that they couldn't open the record as that person didn't live there in 1939. As long as you have a subscription to FindMyPast you could do the same, send in both certificates. If they come back as negative then you know it must have been the aunt who is still alive.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #100 on: Monday 16 November 15 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Lizzie - I think I read somewhere on here that someone had send details to FindMyPast but had the reply that they couldn't open the record as that person didn't live there in 1939. As long as you have a subscription to FindMyPast you could do the same, send in both certificates. If they come back as negative then you know it must have been the aunt who is still alive.

That's a good idea, I could at least eliminate one of them that way. The older aunt would be opened next year anyway, because she was born in 1916, but I would have to wait till the end of May
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #101 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:10 GMT (UK) »

Tell me more, Guy! I have said this all along but no one (to my knowledge) has ever admitted that a later register exists. Surely this will account for many, many 'missing' individuals and addresses on FindMyPast's 1939 register? Why have they kept quiet about this (rhetorical question: I think I can guess why!). Presumably this later register is only available at the NA?

If only this had been made clear from the start.  >:( >:(

I thought it had been.

With regard to missing houses please remember to quote Jim Shaughnessy at Findmypast support.-
“If a record is closed, no element of it can be found in search. This is for privacy reasons and isn't something we dictate. This means that if every member of a household is closed, the entire house won't be searchable in the Register.”

To me that means the house number will not appear on the register until at least one person’s record is opened

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #102 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:19 GMT (UK) »

Tell me more, Guy! I have said this all along but no one (to my knowledge) has ever admitted that a later register exists. Surely this will account for many, many 'missing' individuals and addresses on FindMyPast's 1939 register? Why have they kept quiet about this (rhetorical question: I think I can guess why!). Presumably this later register is only available at the NA?

If only this had been made clear from the start.  >:( >:(

I thought it had been. In what way? I even queried it with FindMyPast when I was struggling to find quite a few of 'my' names. They didn't bother to reply. Have you any idea what happened to the supplementary register?

With regard to missing houses please remember to quote Jim Shaughnessy at Findmypast support.-
“If a record is closed, no element of it can be found in search. This is for privacy reasons and isn't something we dictate. This means that if every member of a household is closed, the entire house won't be searchable in the Register.”

To me that means the house number will not appear on the register until at least one person’s record is opened I am looking for 3 adults who were living at the 'missing' address according to the 1939 electoral roll and I know for sure were living there afterwards. This is what I queried with FindMyPast almost 2 weeks ago but still haven't heard anything more. Quite frankly, its enough to make you want to...  get very cross!!  ::)

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #103 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:25 GMT (UK) »

I thought it had been.

With regard to missing houses please remember to quote Jim Shaughnessy at Findmypast support.-
“If a record is closed, no element of it can be found in search. This is for privacy reasons and isn't something we dictate. This means that if every member of a household is closed, the entire house won't be searchable in the Register.”

To me that means the house number will not appear on the register until at least one person’s record is opened

Cheers
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I've opened one of my pages, and note that for one household the No: 1 person is redacted and this redacts the address as well - I can see the "tail" of letters under the blackout in the address column.   Of the household of 4 people only two are open - Nos: 2 and 4.


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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #104 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Isn't the address available on the preview page after you've unlocked it?
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #105 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:35 GMT (UK) »
My uncle was an evacuee with a Welsh household on the 1939 Register. I got his details 2 years ago. On FindMyPast he is redacted. It was difficult finding the household using the address search but I did it eventually. Anyone searching houses with names, particularly Welsh names may struggle using the address search.

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I would imagine a lot of evacuees would be difficult to un-redact... I don't know the exact address my grandmother was evacuated to, and she's not here to ask (of course if she was alive I wouldn't be able to un-redact her!)

Looks like there'll be a lot of records which remain redacted until the 100 years have passed.

Yes not worth getting a death certificate and trying to explain the address while I've got the HSCIC transcript of the household including my uncle on it from my 2013 application for information from the 1939 Register.


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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #106 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Not as far as I know.  My family is open to view, but it is one of the other households on the same page of 40+ names where the No: 1 for that particular household is redacted, which takes out the address for the other members of the household as well. Nos: 2 and 4 would be searchable by name, I assume, but not by address.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 3)
« Reply #107 on: Monday 16 November 15 17:43 GMT (UK) »
One button I only saw after looking at about 30 screens said Transcript of Full Page. That MUST have it...
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE