1939 Register up and running (Part 3)

[Ruskie]

Pay To View is undoubtedly more profitable for them and most importantly is a huge deterrent for doing look ups for others, compelling anyone who wants to view a record, to pay for their own.

The cost is set high enough for it to not be tempting to help anyone out, unlike Scotland's People, where people often are happy to spend a couple of £ of spare credits to do a lookup for someone.

If there had been a subscription there are plenty of generous people who would have offered look ups and FindMyPast obviously would not want this to happen.

[smudwhisk]

Yes but that was about a year after it had been run as a pay as you go site.
For details of the pay as you go service see
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghn/

Cheers
Guy

Guy, I'm well aware the subscription for the 1911 census was introduced a year or so after its launch, as I'm sure other RCers are and it has already been mentioned on here recently as well. I personally purchased a number of credits to view some entries prior to the subscription launch, but admittedly no where near as many as I purchased for the 1901 which at the time of its launch was of more use to my research.

The point being made was that even when the subscription was launched it was still relatively expensive and no doubt drew complaints from some as it would no doubt have done now if it had been available. That said I still feel the 1911 census was of far more use to my research than I feel the 1939 Register is but that's my personal view, although if it had been set at about £50 I probably would have paid it. Instead I shall probably spend such money on something else of more use to me.

[Guy Etchells]

What I am more interested in is how the National Archives (N.A.) are going to licence the 39 to Ancestry (Anc.).
It is very doubtful that they will be allowed to send Anc. a data set which they could unredact entries themselves.
Therefore I would imagine the N.A. would have to send updates of the dataset at regular intervals to such overseas licencees, or perhaps a code the would allow certain records to be unredacted.

Perhaps this has not be thought out yet or perhaps they already have a solution.

Cheers
Guy

[andycand]

What I am more interested in is how the National Archives (N.A.) are going to licence the 39 to Ancestry (Anc.).
It is very doubtful that they will be allowed to send Anc. a data set which they could unredact entries themselves.
Therefore I would imagine the N.A. would have to send updates of the dataset at regular intervals to such overseas licencees, or perhaps a code the would allow certain records to be unredacted.

Perhaps this has not be thought out yet or perhaps they already have a solution.

Cheers
Guy

I would like to hear either from Findmypast or The National Archives as to how long Findmypast have exclusive access to the 1939 Register, my reading of the Tender Document is 10 years (from 2014) with options for 4 X 5 years. The Register is different from the normal censuses in that Findmypast are contracted to provide a service involving verifying and unredacting and I can't see them carrying the cost of such service only for the results to be passed on to others.

Andy

[Guy Etchells]

What I am more interested in is how the National Archives (N.A.) are going to licence the 39 to Ancestry (Anc.).
It is very doubtful that they will be allowed to send Anc. a data set which they could unredact entries themselves.
Therefore I would imagine the N.A. would have to send updates of the dataset at regular intervals to such overseas licencees, or perhaps a code the would allow certain records to be unredacted.

Perhaps this has not be thought out yet or perhaps they already have a solution.

Cheers
Guy

I would like to hear either from Findmypast or The National Archives as to how long Findmypast have exclusive access to the 1939 Register, my reading of the Tender Document is 10 years (from 2014) with options for 4 X 5 years. The Register is different from the normal censuses in that Findmypast are contracted to provide a service involving verifying and unredacting and I can't see them carrying the cost of such service only for the results to be passed on to others.

Andy

That is the full contract period, the exclusive access will possibly be one or two years, I think the 1911 was one.
Cheers
Guy

PS One of the costs FindMyPast does have to carry is unredacting certainly during the exclusive access period. It is all these additional costs that many do not take into account, they have also had to develop software to redcat and unredact the images and other technical challenges.
Guy

[ScouseBoy]

Have "Findmypast"  found that there is more work to be done than they expected and budgeted for, I wonder?

[Guy Etchells]

I noticed a question on the Genes Reunited forum (Genealogy Chat ; 1939 Register Help Required) where the subscriber is asking about an entery that apears at the top of a page.
He seems to be unaware (and none other the answers have told him) that where a household is spread over two pages both pages are accesible when the first is unlocked.
All he has to do to see the earlier page is to click the arrow pointing to the left on the image he has unlocked.
If the household carries over to the next page the arrow will appear on the right of the screen taking one to the next image.

If there are any Genes Reunited subscribers here perhaps they can help "Alan" out by mentioning this to him.

Cheers
Guy

[trystan]

Better still, suggest that he comes on here.

Trystan

[Guy Etchells]

Have "Findmypast"  found that there is more work to be done than they expected and budgeted for, I wonder?

I doubt it they know it is about twice the amount they had to do for the 1911 census in general terms.
They also know it is not a simple scan and host contract and they have various teams updating things such as the team that deals with redactions and unredactions, a team looking into reconciling the deaths register with the 1939 register others looking in to things like missing entries or broken links etc.
These are the things that put the digitising projects out or reach of the National Archives alone and add considerably to the costs.

Cheers
Guy