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Mothers Maiden Name
« on: Tuesday 10 November 15 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Is their any way of finding out a mothers maiden name pre 1813.

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 November 15 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi - does this relate to your other thread?

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733956.0

In relation to children born within marriage: sometimes, but rarely, there are contemporaneous documents specifically documenting a mother's maiden name in the period before civil registration (e.g. Dade registers, some nonconformist baptism registers, family Bibles).  However, in the overwhelming majority of cases it is a question of finding the father's full name and mother's given name at the child's baptism and then attempting to trace a marriage for that couple.
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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 November 15 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

 Yes it does relate to my other post.

Thank you for your advice.

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 November 15 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Only on a few of mine I've found the Mothers maiden name mentioned on the baptism records - helpfully the one even listed maternal grandparents - this was on a Primitive Methodist baptism c.1810.

Other than it being mentioned on a baptism I've confirmed one also on 1851 census with the Mother in Law living with the family....but if no luck with these then I'm stuck. Hope this helps a bit.

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Thank you

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 12:50 GMT (UK) »
It can also depend on how common the surname of the couple was and their first names. Ie if you find a John Smith baptised in 1810 in a London parish to John and Mary Smith, there could be many such marriages c1790-1810, and they may not even have wed in London.

Durham has Dade registers which gave extra info, even parish of origin of parents. I even know some Suffolk registers which gave mmn before 1813 as well as after. Hacheston was a parish that gave mmn until about 1830ish.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Is there a dade register for Northenden. If so where would I find it?

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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Dade registers are almost always found in Yorkshire parishes, although there are a few odd ones dotted around the country.  :'(  Alsager, Macclesfield and Witton are the only ones in Cheshire.

Similar registers are found in other areas, Reverend Shute Barrington, Bishop of Salisbury from 1783 and then as Bishop of Durham from 1789, used the same type of format, naming parents and grandparents at baptisms.
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Re: Mothers Maiden Name
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Dr Williams Library. They have some good info on anyone whose birth was registered with them.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain