1939 Register up and running (Part 2)

[johnP-bedford]

unredactions at TNA will cost £25 to process, free if you pay for credits for FindMyPast and then supply the death cert to FindMyPast.

Thought the Free unredation service was only free via FindMyPast if you have a subscription with them, not if you use pay-as-you-go credits.

[groom]

I've just had a thought re my earlier post about missing records in a road and my query to FindMyPast. I know that my father would be in the house but would be on the closed list. Can I send a request to FindMyPast, with a scan of his death certificate, give the actual house number and ask for it to be opened even though I can't find that address, or do I need the to find the family first? In which case it is catch 22!

[Norrette]

I think this could be a very useful resource.  My Grandparents, George & Senta, turned out to have opened up a house for their and their siblings children and a couple of the mothers; so they were far from the black marketeers I thought they were 24 hours ago    I found an intriguing fact that he had worked for the RAF (on the right hand side of the page) as a photographer - given that his father -in-law in Germany may also have worked at an aircraft factory and was also a photographer...I feel an interesting tale gestating.  Hoping that I can eventually get to see the rest of the right hand page at the NA. (Oh, just read the new posting below  )

But I hope that Find My Past are continuing to work on this project.  The many "-??" appearing should be researched by themselves.  In my particular case - although irrelevant for my search, the village that they lived in was completely mis-transcribed.  They should at least re-check each town/village incomplete transcription to ensure that it is correct.

In consequence, many of the so-called value added items such as maps etc  are incorrect - am I getting my 6.99 worth? (yes, I know they are available elsewhere, but imagine a less experienced researcher)

For others - if they are hoping to find the village on the list under the district, they may think it is missing.

[dawnsh]

unredactions at TNA will cost £25 to process, free if you pay for credits for FindMyPast and then supply the death cert to FindMyPast.

Thought the Free unredation service was only free via FindMyPast if you have a subscription with them, not if you use pay-as-you-go credits.

If you don't use 1939 credits or credits you've acquired along the way 'unlock' the 1939 address, you won't be able to process the unredaction application online.

I'm not sure of the process yet but you can unlock the address at TNA but can't apply for the unredaction unless you pay £25.

I'm going next week so I'll find out more then.

[johnP-bedford]

I don't have a FindMyPast subscription but I have an account with them and used pay-as-you-go credits for some time now and have many more.... I used 60 of them to unlock an address/household to view this 1939 register only to find a closed entry which I believe is my mother born May 1919 and died Dec 1970. On her birth cerificate she is Evelyn Wright and may have been this name in 1939, however she married Kenneth Partridge in 1942 using name Joan E Wright, and death index is Joan E Partridge. So I suspect the TNA's checking procedure did not identify her as the same person. In the same household is her mother, her mother's sister and her mother's sister's daughter - who I might add is not closed and very much still alive.

The information page regarding opening a closed record says if you're a FindMyPast subscriber you can use an online form - but where's the link to that? ... and also says if you're not a subscriber then contact TNA to request a search costing £25


         

[iolaus]

Also once someone unlocks it by proving the death is it then unlocked for everyone?

[groom]

Also once someone unlocks it by proving the death is it then unlocked for everyone?

Yes

[LizzieL]

Hi LizzieL

I know a death certificate doesn't include a persons NHS number but do you know if the certifying form issued by the Doctor does? and if so is it included on the form to the DHSS?

Andy

I'm sorry, I can't remember if the doctor's form included the NHS number. For my mother, I got the form from the hospital and then took it straight to the registrar who had an office on the same site. I hardly looked at it, except to check I'd been given the one for the right person. the registrar did ask if I had her NHS medical card, passport and driving licence. But as she died suddenly a long way from home, these would have been at her house. She had given up driving some time before and not been abroad for many years, so the latter two would have expired anyway.
It didn't seem important that I didn't have her medical card, as long as I sent the form they gave me back to the DHSS as soon as possible. 

Added
many UK health authorities don't issue actual cards now - I haven't got one. When I moved house and registered with a new GP, I handed in my old one and when I hadn't received a new one, three months later, I queried it and was told they didn't issue them any more

[Mean_genie]

I have been looking at the entry for a woman who appears in the register with her first husband, who died in the war. She re-married in 1944 so her second married name also appears, which was helpful because her first name is partly obscured by the infamous sellotape marks. But then I remembered that she had married for a third time in 1958, but her third married name does not appear.

While National Registration was in force, until 1952, you were legally required to inform your local National Registration Office of any change of name, but once there was no legal compulsion to do this,  I wonder how many women didn't  notify a change of name? Probably not many, because there are plenty of post-1952 name changes in the register, but it's an interesting thought.