1939 Register up and running (Part 2)

[LizzieL]

Yes Senta emigrated to the USA in '56.  I wondered if they get struck off the list retrospectively if this happens.  Although I don't know how the NHS/Govt would match up the records if that's the case.

Perhaps there's more missing from the transcription than is to be expected.

Norrette

UPDATE:  Yippee that worked with the birthdate, both together so both must be illegible.  Better dig into my pocket now    Thanks Lizzie

I thought it was them - still in Yorkshire but not the towns you thought. I got birthdate from passenger list.

[dawnsh]

PS

I don't have a subscription to Findmypast and don't want to keep paying for credits or take a subscription out. Is it possible to view these somewhere for free such as TNA, the library, or Society of Genealogists?

You can view for free at TNA. If you aren't going imminently, then see the bottom of my reply here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734467.msg5799121#msg5799121

[LizzieL]

But then I found this. I don't know if it's the same thing... seems to be 3-letter rather than 4-letter codes.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

For my "YALA" reference... "ALA" in the above list is Islington. Is YALA a subdistrict of ALA?

For those born post WW2 and using the number only as NHS number, should it refer to place of birth or place where parents resided when baby was born?  Neither work for me. My brother was born in same hospital as me a few years later and his last three letters are different.

[LizzieL]

I'm not familiar with the process in the UK but I would think that other Government Departments such as the NHS and/or whoever handles National Insurance would be advised of a persons death perhaps by the Medical Practitioner who certified the death.

Andy

In UK, the doctor who certifies the death issues a certificate showing the medical cause to the next of kin or whoever is responsible for registering the death. They take that to the Registrar who gives them two documents, one is a form to send to DHSS and the other is authority for undertaker ( I think it was green). These are free of charge, any required copies of death certificate need to be paid for (lower rate than getting them from GRO afterwards.) 

[andycand]

Hi LizzieL

I know a death certificate doesn't include a persons NHS number but do you know if the certifying form issued by the Doctor does? and if so is it included on the form to the DHSS?

Andy
 

[loo]

PS

I don't have a subscription to Findmypast and don't want to keep paying for credits or take a subscription out. Is it possible to view these somewhere for free such as TNA, the library, or Society of Genealogists?

You can view for free at TNA. If you aren't going imminently, then see the bottom of my reply here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734467.msg5799121#msg5799121

So, does this mean they haven't destroyed the originals yet?

I'm also trying to envision how they would let you look at one side of the page without seeing the other.  I suppose there must be a way.

[johnP-bedford]

So if you visit Kew Archives you can view the original document for free, having first located your TNA reference or address .... and can you also see the closed items in a household? 

If so, does redaction only apply to online data? as I've noticed some house numbers in a street are closed although I can see the householders name if I view the same address in a 1939 streetdirectory.

If not, can you ask them to check if it's a specific name and then, if it's who you think, give evidence of the death.

I feel that paying £25 to TNA for a lookup in order to correct their database is not fair.     

   

[Guy Etchells]

PS

I don't have a subscription to Findmypast and don't want to keep paying for credits or take a subscription out. Is it possible to view these somewhere for free such as TNA, the library, or Society of Genealogists?

You can view for free at TNA. If you aren't going imminently, then see the bottom of my reply here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734467.msg5799121#msg5799121

So, does this mean they haven't destroyed the originals yet?

I'm also trying to envision how they would let you look at one side of the page without seeing the other.  I suppose there must be a way.

No the 1939 National Register is viewed on computers at the National Archives it is the same the one you see at home on your computer except you do not have to pay for access.

The paper register is kept at the GRO in Southport and is not open to the public.

Cheers
Guy

[dawnsh]

No you can't view the original, they haven't been destroyed yet, you can access what FindMyPast has put online for free without the need to purchase credits.

No, you can't view the redacted entries online at TNA, they stay redacted.

You can only ask TNA to un-redact a closed entry of someone born after 1915 where you have a copy of thier death cert and their address at the time in 1939.

unredactions at TNA will cost £25 to process, free if you pay for credits for FindMyPast and then supply the death cert to FindMyPast.