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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Northern Rose - I replied to your other thread  ;)

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 17:11 GMT (UK) »

Are you saying the people still don't appear at those addresses or that the addresses don't appear in the search?
If it is the latter, then you are not alone. I had to "Live Chat" FindMyPast, as an address I was searching for would not show up, but in going through the reference and adjusting the numbers (using the tips elsewhere on this forum), it turns out that the item (the sheet of about 40-50 individuals) was not on the system (confirmed by them), so would never have been found if I hadn't reported it. I have another one where I think the same applies, but haven't had the time yet to go through person-by-person comparing to the last previious electoral roll and a local map, to prove that is the case.
The guy from FindMyPast intimated that it wasn't an unusual occurance!

I'm saying the latter - the addresses don't appear in the search. Could you possibly send me a link to this 'adjusting the numbers' tip as I can't seem to find it.
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 17:19 GMT (UK) »
I'm saying the latter - the addresses don't appear in the search. Could you possibly send me a link to this 'adjusting the numbers' tip as I can't seem to find it.
There is a Tips thread floating about, which I can't seem to find at the moment. But I paraphrased it here, in answer to a similar query by Northern Lass:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734495.msg5799047

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 17:25 GMT (UK) »
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 18:25 GMT (UK) »
I don't want to appear to be defending FindMyPast (I have no affiliation with them whatsoever) but I can imagine the people involved in this project there must be running around like headless chickens or rabbits in the headlights.

Every dataset any company releases has transcription errors and ommissions to a greater or lesser degree.

(The LMA dataset was put online with Ancestry in 2009 and despite asking for the gaps to be filled, they remain.)

I don't like being used as a guinea pig to 'test' the accuracy of their data and if we are doing a good job here picking holes in things, imagine what it's like on every other genealogy forum out there. I don't know who transcribed the data and why there appear to be so many errors. You may be finding them because you know what should be written there.

They can and have tested the data and the systems - which don't appear to have failed yet. After the unpopular website upgrade earlier this year, I joined the 'working party' to be involved in other projects. Sadly work committments prevented me from attending the sessions for this, but I know that plenty of others did. They do have past experience of many thousands of people all hitting the website at the same time looking for results.

I really do sympathise with those of you who spent hard earned pounds buying credits and being disappoited with the lack of results.

The same happened with the 1911 census and the spectaular internet meltdown of the 1901 census which came online, went bang, and disappeared offline for another 6-8 months (I forget which).

It could be all to easy for them to take the whole thing offline and face the flak for that.

They are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

It's hard asking you to have patience while FindMyPast sort these things out. They have committed to the project with TNA, they want the best outcomes for you - the paying customer, themselves (and their shareholders).

This dataset isn't going to go away. It will be there for a very long time and I hope in due course becomes part of a subscription package as the 1911 census did after about a year.

I'm sure they are grateful to us for providing feedback, even if it is negative. It points them in a direction and gives them the opporunity to sort things out.

I hoping to get to Kew one day next week to check out my own families, I don't have many to look for so should have time to do some look-ups for you and will sort something out for that when I know what day I'm going. It should give those of you without credits the opportunity to ask me to check an entry out for you that you have found by using the search techniques but aren't sure if the entry is correct.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Has government (or anyone) ever published a list of NHS Letter prefixes in relation to where they were registered. I am a FJNJ.
I asked the National Archives on Twitter. They say it's planned.
https://twitter.com/UkNatArchives/status/661948361529040904

But then I found this. I don't know if it's the same thing... seems to be 3-letter rather than 4-letter codes.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

For my "YALA" reference... "ALA" in the above list is Islington. Is YALA a subdistrict of ALA?

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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 19:05 GMT (UK) »

But then I found this. I don't know if it's the same thing... seems to be 3-letter rather than 4-letter codes.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

For my "YALA" reference... "ALA" in the above list is Islington. Is YALA a subdistrict of ALA?

From the blog that Stan gave us a link to
The National Register identity numbers issued by enumerators comprised an area code, denoted by four letters, then two numbers, in the format ABCD 123:4. The first three letters were the area code, starting with AAA in the City of London, and ending with ZZJ in Radnorshire. The fourth letter represented the enumeration district, and the two numbers were the household schedule, followed by the person’s position in the household.

BUT , it also says:
Anyone applying for a replacement for a lost or stolen card was placed on the ‘Y’ Register.
and that Y seems to go at the front, as its not an enumeration district, the letter for which would go at the end of the code.


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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Dear Dawnsh

Thank you very much for the advice you gave regarding the TNA reference to search.

It took my addlepated brain a while to work out how but even a blind hen can find a corn!!

I found one of my aunts but when I looked at the preview a Walton Household appeared which I couldn't connect to my family. I still do not know the connection but using your advice I found that her sister was living there, too so it is clear that these are my aunts.

I can't thank you enough. My aunt's daughter has absolutely no knowledge of her family. I have traced her father and his family. Her father died when she was an infant and her mother married again. Now I can help out with our common ancestors and also her father's ancestors.

With best wishes
Gill


Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
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Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
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Re: 1939 Register up and running (Part 2)
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 04 November 15 19:59 GMT (UK) »
BUT , it also says:
Anyone applying for a replacement for a lost or stolen card was placed on the ‘Y’ Register.
and that Y seems to go at the front, as its not an enumeration district, the letter for which would go at the end of the code.


Aha. Well spotted and thank you. So her card was lost (in Islington if the *ALA bit is still meaningful) in 19-forty-something and she was given a new number for her replacement card.