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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Any suggestions how to "locate" a person born 1922 who was not with her parents. I would like to register her death (2012) with Findmypast but as I do not know with whom or where she was living I cannot work out how to do this.

I cannot see anything in FindMyPast FAQs.
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 11:30 GMT (UK) »
From the FAQ's, under "what if I notice an officially closed record etc...."

You will need to conduct a search for that person on the site to find the record. If you cannot find a person you believe is recorded in the Register, the record may be officially closed.

You need to prove that individuals listed in the records are deceased in order to submit your request to us and for the record(s) to be opened. We can only accept a copy of an official death certificate (issued by the General Register Office or overseas equivalent) so please ensure you have this documentation before proceeding. The only suitable form of evidence is an official death certificate (files supported: .jpg, .png, .gif). If we do not receive this valid proof of death, we will be unable to proceed with a search.

You can find more information about providing proof of death here.

Additional information can be provided such as siblings, occupation, evacuee or any other relevant information that may help us to search the data.

have you tried to find her under a married name?
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Dawn do you know if in the case of a married woman (death and marriage occured in USA) would proof be needed of both to open a record ,she was born in 1919.

Not that I can find her or her family mind you!
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 11:55 GMT (UK) »
But - and here is the query- my Aunt who was born 1928 and married 1950, is there under her married name with her maiden name in brackets and her birth year as 1928.
Can someone shine a light for me please, I know- just bite the bullet and pay for it  :-\
It does seem a bit random as to whether they are indexed under their maiden name with their married name in brackets or visa versa. Have seen both.
I assume she is showing because she is no longer with us (pre-1991)

Also if someone comes up and no other details are listed, does this mean they were sole occupier?
If it doesn't mention others (either as being there or hidden), then they are the only person in the household - could be a multi-household house, so not strictly "sole occupier"


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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Dawn do you know if in the case of a married woman (death and marriage occured in USA) would proof be needed of both to open a record ,she was born in 1919.

Not that I can find her or her family mind you!

FindMyPast and TNA say that a death certificate issued in the correct jurisdiction is required if death occured outside of E&W, they don't mention anything about marriage certs.
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 12:45 GMT (UK) »
I still cannot establish a process for sending a death certificate for to FindMyPast  for a record that is officially closed when I cannot find out the household in which that person was residing.
I may be missing something but I am hoping someone can spell it out to me.

Please and thank you.
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 13:14 GMT (UK) »
You just click on update the record(once you have paid to view it of course) and then you can upload a death cert to them from your computer.

Oops sorry I missed the bit where you said you can't find them.

In which case I don't think it's possible until you can find where they were.

I have a lady that I can't find and I'm going to diarise it to come back an try again in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 13:51 GMT (UK) »
You're going to be stuck, sorry.

Because the information would be closed, without knowing the address they were at when the register was taken, FindMyPast or TNA wouldn't be able to open the record.
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Re: Missing Information 1939 data
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 03 November 15 13:52 GMT (UK) »
But - and here is the query- my Aunt who was born 1928 and married 1950, is there under her married name with her maiden name in brackets and her birth year as 1928.
Can someone shine a light for me please, I know- just bite the bullet and pay for it  :-\
It does seem a bit random as to whether they are indexed under their maiden name with their married name in brackets or visa versa. Have seen both.
I assume she is showing because she is no longer with us (pre-1991)

Also if someone comes up and no other details are listed, does this mean they were sole occupier?
If it doesn't mention others (either as being there or hidden), then they are the only person in the household - could be a multi-household house, so not strictly "sole occupier"

Many thanks for the reply. Yes my aunt died in the early 80s. But why would her married name show, as she did not marry until 1950. Does that mean someone has added information to her details?
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Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
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