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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #144 on: Monday 02 November 15 17:28 GMT (UK) »
I have found a mistake in my Grandparents household

I expected to be able to see 3 available records (grandparents plus one deceased aunt) plus 4 redacted records (my mother plus 3 siblings all alive/recently died)

But instead, there are 4 available & 3 redacted -- an aunt who should have been redacted is clearly shown -- and she is very much alive & kicking in her mid-eighties!

Have only viewed the index, not bought the full entries
Is her DoB correct? As per my early reply, my aunt is showing, as her DoB is shown as 1860 rather than 1938, and she is most certainly still with us.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #145 on: Monday 02 November 15 17:40 GMT (UK) »
have had a quick look and found my grandparents ( on dad's side) had then listed with two people that are blacked out.  I know that will be my dad and his oldest sister and they are both deceased now. Do you know if there is anyway of getting them to unblock as they I have their death certificates.

Also wondering if my dad or mum will ever be unlocked as they both died in Canada. hoping they will increase the death year cut off..

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Derbyshire - Hardwick, Barker, Marples
Lancashire - Winstanley, Morton

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #146 on: Monday 02 November 15 17:42 GMT (UK) »
I have found a mistake in my Grandparents household

I expected to be able to see 3 available records (grandparents plus one deceased aunt) plus 4 redacted records (my mother plus 3 siblings all alive/recently died)

But instead, there are 4 available & 3 redacted -- an aunt who should have been redacted is clearly shown -- and she is very much alive & kicking in her mid-eighties!

Have only viewed the index, not bought the full entries
Is her DoB correct? As per my early reply, my aunt is showing, as her DoB is shown as 1860 rather than 1938, and she is most certainly still with us.

My father is showing (and shouldn't be);I have the full entry and his dob is correct on the original census, but has been (mis) transcribed as 1908 - his mothers dob. He's not concerned and the effort needed to have him redacted honestly isn't worth it...
Turner - Manchester (esp Emily born circa 1853/1855)
Jones - Hulme/Manchester (esp Henry born circa 1847)
Cottrells - Ness/Neston (esp Margaret born circa 1874/1875)
Ellis - Neston and other Cheshire
Butlers - Stockport
Clarke - Whittington, Staffordshire UK and USA

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #147 on: Monday 02 November 15 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Can someone help me please i've found my great nan and in green pen there is another surename above her and also a what I'm assuming a reference number at the side what does this mean?
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland


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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #148 on: Monday 02 November 15 17:49 GMT (UK) »
The notifications of death 'D-codes' were noted in the part of the register we don't get to see - the right-hand page which has confidential medical information that can't be revealed. However, the D-code information was made available to FindMyPast, so that they could unlock the records that had been so annotated up to 1991. The changes of name, for any reason, and in a few cases corrections to dates of birth, are visible on the open pages because they involved crossing out something that was already there, and adding new information in its place. Sometimes you will see the date of a marriage or change of name, but not always. It's not going to be consistent because a lot of different people were making notes in the books over 50 years.

Lots more records will be opened over time. It is in FindMyPast's interest to have as many records open as possible so people can find them, but because there can be potential Data Protection issues they have to be cautious. This is what they have to say on the subject

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Findmypast are continually working to improve the record set in as many ways as they can, and as such are looking into the possibility of cross referencing death indexes in order to open as many records as possible. At this stage, the only way to ensure 100% accuracy to open is by provision of evidence of death in the form of a death certificate. If we can determine the level of accuracy can be upheld with the results of work being carried by Findmypast, we will change our process.


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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #149 on: Monday 02 November 15 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Can someone help me please i've found my great nan and in green pen there is another surename above her and also a what I'm assuming a reference number at the side what does this mean?

Could it possibly be her married name? My grandmother has the same and in her case it is her married name; I've assumed the reference numbers link to the marriage record, but I may be wrong; I haven't looked into the reference numbers as I have her marriage cert... My explanation could of course be totally wrong...
Turner - Manchester (esp Emily born circa 1853/1855)
Jones - Hulme/Manchester (esp Henry born circa 1847)
Cottrells - Ness/Neston (esp Margaret born circa 1874/1875)
Ellis - Neston and other Cheshire
Butlers - Stockport
Clarke - Whittington, Staffordshire UK and USA

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #150 on: Monday 02 November 15 18:05 GMT (UK) »
My nans name was Louisa Gibson she married a Eric Fisher but in green pen it has Robertson! I know she spilt from Eric but they apparently never got divorced because she wouldn't give him the satisfaction of doing so, so I'm totally confused to where this name is from
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #151 on: Monday 02 November 15 18:11 GMT (UK) »
The notifications of death 'D-codes' were noted in the part of the register we don't get to see - the right-hand page which has confidential medical information that can't be revealed. However, the D-code information was made available to FindMyPast, so that they could unlock the records that had been so annotated up to 1991. The changes of name, for any reason, and in a few cases corrections to dates of birth, are visible on the open pages because they involved crossing out something that was already there, and adding new information in its place. Sometimes you will see the date of a marriage or change of name, but not always. It's not going to be consistent because a lot of different people were making notes in the books over 50 years.

Thanks - that's what I wanted to know! So the dates of death notice (D-codes) are in the redacted right-hand part of the image. So for the present at least, if we need to know what it says, we still have to use the old system and put in an expensive paper request to the NHS. Botheration. Seems a bit unfair given that, once deceased, the Data Protection Act does not apply!

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #152 on: Monday 02 November 15 18:51 GMT (UK) »
My mum's not on it.  Not bought any households, but the search results give me 0.

I know where she was, she was 14 and living with her granny/granddad and uncles/aunts.  I know the exact address.  I know they moved into that house in 1933 and were still in it past 1949.  She was there.  They weren't wealthy, she couldn't have been anywhere else - she'd have just left school and was working on a production line at the factory down the road.

But she's not showing up in results.  I even tried just the surname and year of birth (+/- 2 years). Missing ... not there.

That's not a good start.

Granny's there.  A lot of the household it says are closed records, looking at it it looks like granny/granddad will be named.... others in the house (aged 14 to possibly 35) are just lumped together under the "5 others" ....

I've tried using just the surname and gone through them all; others are in the results, just not her.  I've even tried using a fake name she's been known to use ... but still nothing. I've checked for just her first name, with variations .... nothing.

At 14 she HAD to be at her granny's .... or (unlikely) her mum's, just 200 yards away.  She'd always lived with granny, forever..... it doesn't make sense.

I'll try poking round with more variations/combinations to try to work out who is who .... and what's what ....but it's not the nice/clean/exact record-keeping I was expecting it to be.

I won't be buying access for now .... I'm happy just to discover people in the results for now.

It looks like, ultimately, I'll have to buy the access for the two households I "know" .... just to double check.  I bet it'll turn out to be a super-annoying poor transcription.
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