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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #171 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Over the next few days we will all discover what reference number searching techniques work best for each of us depending on the device we are using and the browser.

The information I gave earlier was based on using a tower pc running windows 7. I'm not particularly tech-savvie and hoped it helps.

Others may be using a Android based tablet.

I know there are always issues with using mobile devices as some of them don't have the same functionality.

If you find a different method which works for you, please add which device and operating system you are using as others may find it useful.
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #172 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:07 GMT (UK) »
The question about opening the records of deceased family members has been asked more then once.

Please take a few moments to read FindMyPast's FAQ's about this dataset

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/frequently-asked-questions

and select "the 1939 register coming soon to FindMyPast"

And in this case:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/frequently-asked-questions/answer/how-can-i-provide-proof-of-death-to-request-the-opening-of-a-record


Answer:

You will be required to scan and send a copy of a fully certified death certificate from General Records Office (GRO) or the equivalent Governing body if the death occurred in a country other than the UK. By certified copy, we mean the original certificate as registered and provided when the death occurred. This can be a copy as opposed to an original however it must contain the full registered details. If the criteria are not met, you may be requested to either re-submit or provide further evidence, such as a birth certificate.
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #173 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:14 GMT (UK) »
I do know that some German cousins of his family were classed as "Aliens" and were sent to the Isle of Wight.

Reckon you mean Isle of Man?
That's where internment camps were located! ;D

Oops - yes I most definitely did mean Isle of Man

Thanks for the correction .... I shall now be forever wondering how on earth "Wight" managed to get onto the page.  :-[

There WERE internees on the Isle of Wight, although I appreciate that this is not where your person was.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=28601.0

I would think that Sept 29, 1939 might have been a bit early for them to have been all rounded up though.  Presumably this Register would have been used to identify and locate them for this purpose.

I was told all Aliens who were allowed to live in their own home had to report to the local police station daily.  Presumably all of them had to report to be processed in the first instance.  Attached is the earliest internal Police response when Elizabeth reported to her local cop shop.  The next copy document I have is a very long questionnaire which was sent to various police stations until it eventually arrived at the County HQ for verification.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #174 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:30 GMT (UK) »
I haven't read all of the pages of this thread but I was wondering if any people were finding problems with transcriptions or people redacted who shouldn't be??


Yes, redaction seems inconsistent. I've mentioned this 8-person household briefly earlier in the thread.

Person 1 (1884-1958).  Appears in preview. Redacted in image.
Person 2 (b 26.11.15).  Not in preview, but appears unredacted in image. [Died 2007]
Person 3 (1914-1944). Appears in preview. Redacted in image.
Person 4 (b 1918). Not in preview, but appears unredacted in image. [Died 1996].
Person 5  Identity unknown. Not in preview, redacted in image.
Person 6 (1889-1980). Not in preview, but appears unredacted in image.
Person 7 (b 1912).  Appears in preview and appears unredacted in image.
Person 8 (b 1916). Not in preview, but appears unredacted in image. [Died 1995].
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #175 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:41 GMT (UK) »
I do know that some German cousins of his family were classed as "Aliens" and were sent to the Isle of Wight.

Reckon you mean Isle of Man?
That's where internment camps were located! ;D

Oops - yes I most definitely did mean Isle of Man

Thanks for the correction .... I shall now be forever wondering how on earth "Wight" managed to get onto the page.  :-[

There WERE internees on the Isle of Wight, although I appreciate that this is not where your person was.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=28601.0

I would think that Sept 29, 1939 might have been a bit early for them to have been all rounded up though.  Presumably this Register would have been used to identify and locate them for this purpose.

I was told all Aliens who were allowed to live in their own home had to report to the local police station daily.  Presumably all of them had to report to be processed in the first instance.  Attached is the earliest internal Police response when Elizabeth reported to her local cop shop.  The next copy document I have is a very long questionnaire which was sent to various police stations until it eventually arrived at the County HQ for verification.

All aliens had to appear before a tribunal to decide if they were genuine refugees or were Nazi sympathizers. There were three categories. ‘A’ were the known Nazis who were interned immediately, ‘B’ were the doubtful ones who had restrictions placed on them i.e. no radios, needing permission to travel etc. ‘C’ were all the rest and almost all the Jewish Refugees.
After Dunkirk most of the remaining German Nationals were also interned.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #176 on: Monday 02 November 15 21:59 GMT (UK) »
In other news, Genealogists are delighted to now have access to the 1939 register, quite possibly the most extensive collection of overpriced mistranscriptions yet released.

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #177 on: Monday 02 November 15 22:04 GMT (UK) »
I think I must of missed something.

We were told that if we wished to reveal a redacted entry, we simply needed to send a copy of the death certificate. Now I'm reading that we need to pay £25 as well! I'm pretty sure this was not advertised in advance.

To add to this, the chap I want to look at died before 1991 anyway!

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Yandell - Bristol
Roberts - Bristol
Condon - Bristol and County Cork
Smith - Ramsbury, Wiltshire and Leeds.
Moger - Bristol, Bath and Somerset
Cain - Leeds and County Cork

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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #178 on: Monday 02 November 15 22:12 GMT (UK) »
On the basis of buying credits for just one household (my grandparents) to see what all the fuss is about, it seems an awful lot of money for very little :'(

But the previews are proving useful for checking where people were in 1939 . . . except for all those who are redacted . . . or mis-transcribed ::)

Mike.
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Re: 1939 Register up and running
« Reply #179 on: Monday 02 November 15 22:22 GMT (UK) »
I think I must of missed something.

We were told that if we wished to reveal a redacted entry, we simply needed to send a copy of the death certificate. Now I'm reading that we need to pay £25 as well! I'm pretty sure this was not advertised in advance.

To add to this, the chap I want to look at died before 1991 anyway!

Where on the site does it say about paying £25?
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