Morton/Murton

[feefee]

Hi Andy, Thank you so much for the wonderful information.  Thomas Morton father Andrew wife Ann Stewart was my ggf (chillingham) married Elisabeth Morton father Robert Morton, his father, also, Andrew Dick Morton,  Belford Catholic origin.  They can be traced to Lucker  and Bamborough.  I think you may be right in thinking nc baptism.  I have looked at Selby Morton and this name is predominent in the family.  Given the amount of children Andrew and Ann had, I discounted that line.  I am going to have a look at the William Morton who is living nearby in Chillingham.   Thoroughly enjoyed reading info.  Once again thank you.

Fiona

[chrismort72]

Hi Andy, I am researching my ancestor John Morton born 1829 in Seghill, who moved to Marley Hill sometime in the 1850s. I think I found him in the 1851 census in Seghill but as John Murton, married to Mary Murton with a 6 myth old son Edward Murton. This looks right given their names, so maybe it was a mistranscription from the original? Anyway, I have completely drawn a blank on finding him on the 1841 census so any help from anyone would be brilliant.

Cheers, Chris Morton.

[andygmandrew]

Hi Chris,

In 1841 John was living with his parents William and Frances at Brunton Row, East Brunton, Gosforth Northumberland. His baptism was as follows:

23 November 1828, John son of William and Frances Murton [Slater] of Seghill, Pitman, baptised at Earsdon

Happy to give you any more information you require.

Kind regards

Andrew

[chrismort72]

Thanks Andrew, that seems to tie in with the fact that John's wife Mary was recorded in the 1851 census as having been born in Gosforth, so perhaps they met there and then John went back to Seghill to work, where his father William was also from.

I'd be keen to connect with anyone else's Morton/Murton trees. Mine is public on Geni.

Thanks so much for your help and of course any further info would be brilliant!

Chris Morton

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks Andrew, that seems to tie in with the fact that John's wife Mary was recorded in the 1851 census as having been born in Gosforth, so perhaps they met there and then John went back to Seghill to work, where his father William was also from.

You may already have this info......

From the GRO index the children of John Morton & Mary show mmn MORTON

probable marriage entry 
Dec 1849     Tynemouth   25   491
Dick   John      
King   Clement      
Morton   John      
Morton   Mary      
Richardson   Eliza      
Trewick   Jane   

Marriage certificate would confirm father's names   

Mary Morton Baptism  5 Apr 1829 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland
Father:   Edward Morton Mother:   Elizabeth

Edward (coal miner) & Elizabeth Morton & family living next door to
William (coal miner) & Frances Morton & family
1841c HO107; Piece: 821; Folio: 8; Page: 14 address Brunton Row, Gosforth, Northumberland

[andygmandrew]

Here is the full entry with comments:

1841 Census
Brunton Row, East Brunton, Gosforth, Northumberland   

William   Murton   Male   30   Coal miner   Born in Northumberland      [William  2nd s. of George Murton, cutler, of Sheffield, by his wife Mary Rutter, N. of the P. of Tynemouth, born 22nd October 1808, baptised 4th December 1808 at Earsdon]

Frances   Murton   Female   30   [coal miner’s wife]   Not born in Northumberland      [1 December 1827, William Murton of Earsdon and Frances Slater of Earsdon, married, by Banns at Earsdon]

John   Murton   Male   10   -   Born in Northumberland      [23 November 1828, John son of William and Frances Murton [Slater] of Seghill, Pitman, baptised at Earsdon]

Edward   Murton   Male   9   -   Born in Northumberland      [Edward son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 3 September 1831 at Newcastle All Saints]

William   Murton   Male   8   -   Born in Northumberland      [William son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 8 December, 1832 at Newcastle All Saints]

Robert   Murton   Male   3   -   Born in Northumberland      [Robert son of William and Frances Morton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 10 February 1839 at Gosforth]

Ann   Murton   Female   6   -   Born in Northumberland      [Ann daughter of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 20th of September, 1834 at Newcastle All Saints]

George   Murton   Male   5   -   Born in Northumberland      [George son of William and Frances Murton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 29 April 1838 at Gosforth]

William's parents are living nearby:

Brunton Row, Gosforth, Castle Ward, Northumberland   

George   Murton   Male   55   Coal miner   Not born in Northumberland [born in Sheffield]   
Mary   Murton   Female   50   -   Born in Northumberland   [George Morton x his mark and Mary Rutter x her mark, both of this chapelry, by Banns, married 8th of September 1806 at Newcastle All Saints. Wit. Ann Cowan, Jona. Scott]

The baptism of George and Mary's first son describes George as a soldier [I think he was actually in the militia]:

George 1st son of George Morton, Shefield, York, soldier, by his wife Mary daughter of Robert Rutter, pitman, of this Chapelry, baptised 16 August, 1807 - Newcastle All Saints

George must have died because we find this:

Mary Morton, full age, Widow,-, Benwell, Father: Robert Rutter (deceased), Collier and John Gair, full age, Widower, Labourer, Benwell, Father: Edward Gair (deceased), Labourer, by Banns [he signs, she x], married 9th of November 1842. Wit. Wm. Findley, Jn° Thompson

PS I don't have that John Morton/Mary Morton marriage. It can't have taken place in Tynemouth or Earsdon parishes as I have all the marriages there. It could be that there was no church ceremony. If you get a certificate I'd be grateful for the details.

[chrismort72]

Thanks Andy, this is amazing. You have added two generations to my family tree (now into the 18th century!), changed my surname to Murton, and given me roots in Sheffield! Incredible.

[andygmandrew]

I did actually track down George’s baptism in/near Sheffield but I didn’t keep a note of it unfortunately. I dare say I could find it again. By the way, the surnames Murton/Morton are interchangeable. I’ve seen many people whose surnames change from Morton to Murton and back again several times over the years. I’ve even seen people referred to as Murton who then sign the register as Morton.

Cheers

Andrew

[chrismort72]

Needless to say we'd be over the moon to have George's baptism info but please don't go to any lengths. Interesting on the name changing, I just assumed that literacy wasn't that great and so the census taker just interpreted what they told them as best they could. Maybe it was the Sheffield accent...