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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #36 on: Friday 30 October 15 14:07 GMT (UK) »
I'm cross with myself - I just typed out a witty reply thanking you all once again, but stupidly closed the window.  >:(

Too late to retype in detail but thank you all once again.


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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #37 on: Friday 30 October 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
According to convict records there is NO Edward GEARY but only Edward GAREY per John 1832.
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/search/results

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 01 November 15 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the link Neil.

So that that mean that this is information is incorrect?: :-\

1837 Convict Muster, NSW.
Edward GEARY, aged 19, per Westmoreland 1832, assigned to William BOWMAN, Maneroo.  (Maneroo = Monaro)

http://www.monaropioneers.com/convicts/muster1837a.htm#G

I can see how the surnames Garey and Geary could be confused, (but they are also surnames in their own right), so I am unsure if that is the case here, or if my Edward Geary is a different chap altogether.  :-\

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 01 November 15 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I can find several entries for the Ship Westmorland transporting IRISH convicts, but none seem to be in 1832. If there was an Edward GEARY then he may have been Irish. I can't seem to find much?
http://www.jenwilletts.com/convict_ship_westmoreland_1835.htm

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 01 November 15 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neil.

That is odd.

I did initially wonder if Geary might be an Irish name (McGeary), (but hoping it isn't). Both Geary and Garey are English surnames.

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 01 November 15 21:54 GMT (UK) »
No, it doesn't mean the info is incorrect.  Perhaps it is indicating that who-ever asked that 19 year old Edward GEARY for details of his ship of arrival simply did not bother to check if the info was correct. Perhaps it is indicating that the NSW admin officials did not check the accuracy of the info sent from Monaro to Sydney as part of that 1837 Muster.  (If either of these options were correct, it is possible that at least one of my ancestors handled the paperwork.  I have paper-pushers in NSW Col Sec office from Macquarie's era, and settlers in the Monaro from same era too). 

Thanks for the link Neil.

So that that mean that this is information is incorrect?: :-\

1837 Convict Muster, NSW.
Edward GEARY, aged 19, per Westmoreland 1832, assigned to William BOWMAN, Maneroo.  (Maneroo = Monaro)

http://www.monaropioneers.com/convicts/muster1837a.htm#G

I can see how the surnames Garey and Geary could be confused, (but they are also surnames in their own right), so I am unsure if that is the case here, or if my Edward Geary is a different chap altogether.  :-\

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 01 November 15 21:57 GMT (UK) »
So there's a lad, Edward GEARY (or variations) in 1837 recorded in the Muster as being assigned to William BOWMAN, in the Monaro district.

I will see if I can find others assigned to William in that muster, and then check the accuracy of that info too.   :)

Back later !

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Re: GEARY NSW
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 01 November 15 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks JM.  ;D

I can understand an admin error, but I can't see the point of Edward saying he arrived on the Westmoreland if he arrived on the John ....

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« Reply #44 on: Sunday 01 November 15 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Waiting for this ?  Well I am now coming to the view that I need to doubt the integrity of the info supplied by W Bowman....  perhaps there's a visit to Qld State Library .....

Gleaned from an online index  :  (I haven't got to my own documents at the mo)

1837 General Muster (December) Assigned to W BOWMAN, Maneroo:

Robert BARRICOT,28, per Marquis of Huntley 1827
William BYRNE, 20, per James Laing 1834
John DRUMGALD, alias John McCormick, 23, tried Lancaster, per Westmoreland 1835
Edward GEARY, 19 per Westmoreland 1832
William JOHNSTONE, 25, per James Laing 1834
Isaac LUCAS, 29, per Lady Feversham 1830  (Ticket of Leave 1839, to remain in district of Melbourne)
Duncan McKEY, 30, per Hercules 1832
John NORRIS, 22, per Hercules 1832
William PRICE, 20, per Mangles 1833
William ROBINSON, 30, per Clyde 1832
John SCOTT, 35, per Henry Tanner 1834
Henry SHARLACKER, 70, her Henry Tanner 1834

The 1837 General Muster 31 Dec 1837.    It might be worthwhile checking if the State Library of Queensland has reels, or perhaps Ancestry library version will have the 1837 General Muster for New and Norfolk Island. 
TNA (Kew, England) Reel PRO 71-71 (oops, a typo, should be 71-72), Vol 10/32-35 
http://heritagegenealogy.com.au/blog/nsw-censuses-and-musters/

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http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/131204/SLQ_Info_Guide_3_19_-_Census_records_2014_02.pdf General Return of Convicts in NSW, 1837 (FAMHIS 929.3994 1987)

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http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-convict-records/indexes-to-convict-records  You can search by ship or by convict.   I have had a quick check, and I umm…. there’s reason to doubt the accuracy of the info on the Maneroo General Muster of 1837 as per those assigned to W Bowman.  (particularly ships of arrival not matching up with NSW State Records index)

Cheers,  JM   :)  :)  :)
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