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Joseph Clark of Blaby
« on: Tuesday 27 October 15 22:28 GMT (UK) »
I am in a bit of a quandary.  Looking for Joseph Clark parents he was born in Blaby in 1730

Looked on the printed PR that  I have and it states.

JOSEPH CLARK M CHR 12 FEB 1730 Blaby Clark WIDOW CLARK SHE A WIDOW

So decided to check on Ancestry but found

Joseph Clark
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   12 Feb 1730
Baptism Place:   Blaby,Leicester,England
Father:   Joseph Clark
Mother:   Mary
FHL Film Number:   585311

Same on Family Search  with

Indexing Project (Batch) Number   C04654-1
System Origin   England-ODM
GS Film number   585311

But how can there be Joseph Clark bap on 12 Feb 1730 with the names of his parents on Ancestry and Family Search.  Yet on my printed parish records it says Widow Clark (she a widow)

Cannot find a death of Joseph Clark in the 1729-30 . 

Can find a John Clark died in Nov 1729 in Aylestone.  Looking back can find a marriage in 1720 to a Elizabeth Morton. It states g from Little Glen b from Blaby.

Does anyone have the parish records of Blaby to see if there are 2 chr of Joseph Clark on the same day 12 Feb 1730.  If not one of these records is wrong.
Any imput would be great.  Thanks
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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure that the record on Family Search isn't one that has been submitted rather than one from the parish records? I would be more inclined to believe the actual parish records.
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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The information that you have for 1730 baptism is correct according to Blaby Parish Register.

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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Don't forget that is a baptism record not birth. Maybe Joseph was born earlier & then 'widow' Clark decided to have him baptised after his father died?

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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Cannot find any Joseph dying in Blaby or Aylestone before his baptism

So how do Ancestry get there information regarding parents Joseph and Mary?  Also

I think Widow Clark is Elizabeth Morton and father John who died in Nov 1729 in Aylestone and Elizabeth went back to her parents . 

Thanks Bunnygirl.  Can I ask did you look  on a printed list or was it the microfiche as just wondered who else was  bap on that day and has someone just read Joseph and Mary wrong.
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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 09:29 GMT (UK) »
I have just written to Family Search and Ancestry with my findings and asking them where they got there info from as others could make the same mistake going down that road.  Maybe I am wrong but they should be able to check on it.

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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 09:33 GMT (UK) »

So how do Ancestry get there information regarding parents Joseph and Mary? 


If you look at their source, it is FamilySearch!
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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Groom that answers a lot
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Re: Joseph Clark of Blaby
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 22:00 GMT (UK) »
I have found differences between Family Search & some Leicester Parish records too, and it was because FS were transcribed from Bishops Transcripts, not the PRs.

The film No for Blaby is 585311 which is also from the Bishops Transcript.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A585311
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