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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 October 15 13:49 BST (UK) »
Why is Sarah's arrival being questioned.  Didn't she write a letter home?

May I suggest that the barque  EMPRESS EUGENIE transported only the regiment and their families from Cork, Ireland and if a manifest was lodged on arrival it has not survived or may have been too fragile to transcribe to the shipping arrivals at the Public Record Office of Victoria.

Was the person you spoke to familiar with the 1852 Passenger Act regarding transport between British Colonies?  I doubt it.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38460257

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4799831
The Argus 4 Nov 1854
November 3. - Empress Eugenie, 653 tons, W. H. Nattress, from Cork 30th July, transport No.104.
Passengers - cabin : Lieut. Le Wise, Admiralty Agent, Capt Atkinson, commanding officer, Capt. Vereker, Acting Paymaster, Lieut. J. R. Palmer, M. C. Saunders, Assistant-Surgeon Rogers, W. H. Paul, H. L. Williams, C. M. Harward, Mrs. J. R. Palmer, and Mrs. Vereker ; ten sergeants, one hundred and sixty-seven rank and file, twenty-five women, and thirty-four children.

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 October 15 13:59 BST (UK) »
Frederick is not listed as being at Eureka however there is a snippet about him

http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ballarat-history/eureka/item/352-12th-regiment-at-eureka-list-of-soldiers
List of 12th Regiment soldiers, from the Payroll AJCP 3714, who were stationed at Ballarat during Eureka.

Vaughan left Sydney on the 14th October 1864 and returned to England via Victoria with two other soldiers, Sergeant (2001) Frederick Hodgkins and Private (3057) John Barry (PRO3729).

I note that Frederick and Anne had three chn in NSW.

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando

I have been helping Margaret with this, Sarah's arrival is not being questioned, its that there was a son born, George Frederick Hodgkins ,1852, Ham, Surrey, and I think she would like to know if he was with her on the ship, and return to England after she died, we know he  joined the same regiment has his father and lived in England,

Are there any cemetery records that could be checked

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:31 BST (UK) »
None of this is on the board and that makes it difficult for anyone attempting to assist.

There is no record at PROV for the ship's arrival so no manifest survives. 

So a child was born prior to their marriage in 1853.  Was the birth registered?

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Marriages Mar 1853
CHAMBERS    Sarah        Richmond Sry    2a/267   
HODGKINS    Frederick    Richmond Sry    2a/267


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Are there any cemetery records that could be checked

Links to cemeteries in the Resources and Offers Board/Victoria.

Not all the records from the Old Melbourne Cemetery survive.  Only from 1866.   The Melbourne General Cemetery opened in 1853 and Margaret may like to email them with her query.
MGC [at] smct.org.au 

Perhaps she died in Tasmania however if she did her death wasn't registered.

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:37 BST (UK) »
I am assuming the next question will be about outgoing passenger lists from NSW.  There are no official lists for the period 1826-98.

Late for me...well past my bedtime. :)

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:48 BST (UK) »
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you both. Just heard that the family descending from SarAh's sister Elizabeth may have more evidence of SarAh's death in letters they possess. In her letter home on arrival at Melbourne she speaks of little Freddie  who is George Frederick as she says the birth of the new baby means she now has children (rather than a child)   . George Fred birth is registered under army registration. Cando thank you for the extra info. The reference to Frederick leaving in 1864 was because he was retired unfit to serve through chronic rheumatism. He is retired on pension with a record of exemplary service in 1865 however he and Ann go on to have more children over here. I had no record of the birth of a son prior to their marriage so that is more info gained. Thank you so much. I will look up the links when I have more time tonight
Thank you Margaret for all your help. Will let you both know of anything more I learn once the copy of the additional letters arrive.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 22 October 15 22:33 BST (UK) »
Your welcome Margaret

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Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
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Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 October 15 21:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando.The promised letter has come through and I now have answers. Frederick writes a harrowing letter to Sarah's parents. She died in Melbourne. "On Tuesday 12th December (1854) at 10 minutes past 3pm she breathed her last".
The letter tells of her last days and even details of her grave. The cemetery at Melbourne about 7 miles from Richmond grave number 91 which he said would be marked with a tombstone marking her virtues.
Sadly the baby died a month later.
Fred was quelling the gold mining riots at the time if her death.
Thank you for your help.