Newark Upon Trent 1st cousins family Killinger/ and variants

[mshergold]

At the moment I am working towards the reconstruction of events along the Trent River that appear to be my first cousins primary family structure.  As much as I taxed all the information I can gleam from anc, FindMyPast and fs.o there are lots of gaps even with entries from Notts Archives.
Please help with the following::
I am chasing a transcription of the 1811 census for Newark Upon Trent and the one link on the internet where I found such does not work coming up error 404 etc.

Also would someone enlighten me to a name , any name, and which site I can get to see the images or complete folio of the 1841 Newark Upon Trent census.

As well, apart from some very interesting sites and even pdfs found on this forum, I would like to get my hands on a complete burial transcript for the church in Newark..... understanding of course there are numerous... principally the Anglican burials or the Bishops transcripts version....   I have not had very much success with the piece meal efforts listed on "national burial index" and that is why I would like a complete list......   preferably in excel or pdf.

If you can help with these requests I would be grateful.

In addition I am also interested in any mercers lists from 1700 through to 1800 or any transcribed directories of the period.....   and a possible transcription of the Hearth Tax payees.....
Since one of the family owned a pub in the town I would be interested in any websites that may contain detailed information of a historical value as well....

I know its all a big big ask but as I discover this foundation family the story has been evolving at a great rate of knots.......

thankyou
marty

[larkspur]

There is only 1 burial for Killinger on Notts burial register
Newark St Mary Magdalene
16-10-1695 William Killinger.
Varients.....
15-4-1661 Elizabeth KILLENOR notes say dau of William
17-9-1677 Thomas KILLINER
The rest are Killingleys.
If you are looking for later burials Deceased online has all of the burials for Newark Cemetery, I think it dates from the 1850s.

The only transcription of the 1811 census for Newark, I have seen is from a book I loaned from Newark Library.It only shows the name of the head of house, no occupation, age etc.
If you go on the Nottingham resources and offers tab above, Alexander very kindly does some look ups on the hearth tax.
The 1841 census is available on the usual pay for sites.I would assume that NFHS might do  cd's of the census's, but I know their online shop was closed- not sure if it is open yet.

[mshergold]

larkspur,

thanks for the reply.... given what i saw today in mis transcriptions for Weldon.......in NTH....

the name has gone from Killinger, Billinger, Killinar, Kellenger and even Rollenger.....


so can u give those Killingeys please and if you may have access......     this family primary lived anywhere along the Trent and on the western side of the river all the way up to Gainsborough in Lincoln...................my main problem now is marriages from Phillimore Newark Upon Trent ; and marriages at Normanton on Trent.................   ps big ask.....   gap in baptisms for 1640 to 1600 at Normanton .....  did they get burnt from plague or Cromwells lot?........     no entries on fs.o prior to 1600 worries me...........   have been also looking for structure on one Rueben Killinger circa 1780s that has a death cert but no other info..............   I see you did a lot of work on the Stannilands and  these Killingers married into that line.....  I spent a great of time yesterday recreating the baptismal register of Normanton from fso and see the Jeramiah Stanniland line there ... my problem with that tie in is that there are about 3 options for the Hannah on the marriage to Killinger.......
there certainly is a lot of folk struggling with other branches of this lot I am doing and regretably one person doing Taylors in the area have a website with some almighty question marks on....

any help you give is appreciated, as I am sitting at a desk on the southern tip of Australia..... but would love to get my mits into those archives......    good o and thx



ps    I notice there are numerous probates from Killinger and Killingar on the Notts Archives site....   how does one deal with them when they not in shopping cart style pdfs.... and roughly how much do they charge for muggins here to get copies or transcriptions to Au..... thx again

[larkspur]

Firstly burials Newark St Mary Magdalene
1-4-1848 Anthony Killingley aged 83
19-3-1770 Martha Killingley
16-5-1775 Richard  ditto
26-2-1777 John ditto notes say Senior
8-10-1777 Elizabeth ditto notes say Widow
12-9-1803 Maria Killingly wife of Robert
30-1-1760 ? Killingly widow
31-10-1779 Robert KILLINLEY
21-5-1763 Maria Killinley dau of Richard.

[larkspur]

Marriage's Normanton on Trent
23-5-1678 William KILLINGAR and Katherine Naylour.
4-2-1714 Thomas Ingam & Elizabeth KILLINGER
My Cd does not cover any baptisms at Normanton.
There are 12 male KIL******* marriages in Newark and 5 female.

From Genuki Normanton on Trent "The Anglican parish register dates from 1673 for baptisms, 1675 for burials and 1687 for marriages and is in good condition."

" have been also looking for structure on one Rueben Killinger circa 1780s that has a death cert but no other info.."
There will be no death cert, there could be a burial  but not on my cd. There is no baptism or marriage either.

Marriage Norwell
4-12-1753 John KILLINGER & Hannah Stanniland

Are you searching for all Kil*** or a specific line?

[larkspur]

https://familysearch.org/search
http://www.freereg.org.uk/

I assume you know both of these free sites?

[mshergold]

have gleaned the free sites.........  am about to start a recon of baptisms of Newark from fs.o to determine the marryins......     have edited a home version of Normanton on Trent baptisms to get some of the marryins there.....

the main line is the normanton on trent to marnham which in turn leads to the Northamptonshire Killingers in turn leading to Rotherhithe that leads to my 1st cousins mob.....   Although I have completed a national search of Killingers and the variant throughout history, the last and final branches or those around the River Trent....   as the data and material of day to day life of Newark seems to be the material I want to include in the story I find the transcriptions of somewhat hap hazzard presentation, and , in all honesty can see why every other person doing the Trent genealogies is having the same difficulties.....   Newark itself has massive gaps in the structuring whereas upon getting the probates I will be able to hopefully complete the Normanton side of the river.    I also find that a lot of the trees presented by subscribers on anc are incomplete because they have all faced the same problems , and a lot of those kind folk have come in from different sides.....  an example was yesterday when I decided to do a complete reconstruction of register for Weldon in a particular period the chap is transcribed in a way only martians could only hope to summise in phonetic variation but upon affirmation it was in deed the chap I needed......

[larkspur]

There are some baptisms at North Clifton, I realise that it is some 7 miles from Marnham by road, but at one time there was a ferry across the river at Marnham to South Clifton. Marnham was divided into Church Marnham and Ferry Marnham. Now of course it is High and Low Marnham, there only being the one Church.
There are massive gaps in all the records, sometimes due to missing pages, water and damp ingress, infestation, loss of the registers, Civil War, etc etc.
 Records can only be transcribed if they are readable and exist.

[mshergold]

could you please explain the "rebellion of 1746 in Newark or Nottinghamshire" ?

just watched a great clip on utube of Newark on Trent taking one around the historical streets etc...  good to see where the ancestors trampled.....

cheers