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Canning Family - Carnanbane
« on: Monday 12 October 15 01:41 BST (UK) »
I have been trying to unravel the family of Henry and Sarah Canning who may have some connection to my Canning's and was hoping for some help.

To date I have Henry Canning (death indexed as Cunning) born about 1794 and died 23rd July 1890. His will was probated in 1893 and gives a death date of 17th July 1893. It mentions a daughter Nancy and sons James and John. I suspect that the will was probated at that time as I have discovered his son James died 3rd June 1893.

There is a Cemetery inscription at the New Banagher C of I that apparently has "Sarah wife of Henry" and also mentions Henry and James deaths. The date of death for Sarah from the tombstone has a corresponding civil death record of 23rd March 1880, but the informant, Jane McFarland, states the 69 year old Sarah is a widow.

John advertised the sale of a farm, crop and stock in the Derry Journal of the 4th August 1893. After the sale he and Nancy then go to Hendrum, Minnesota in the United States. Nancy dies there on the 29th August 1924 and John 2nd April 1932 with both buried at the Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery in Hendrum.

Also living in Hendrum was Martha Crommie (nee Canning) who died 18th June 1926 at her sons home in Havre, Montgomery and then is also buried at the Immanuel Lutheran Cemetery. This is obtained from an obituary in the Nashua Reporter dated 30th June 1926 that mentions three sisters, Margaret Ligget, Sarah Hunter and a Mrs Charles W. Canning (I have yet to work out her name) and brother John.

The dilemmas :-)

I seem to have the family of farmer Henry Canning living in Carnanbane with no obvious candidates in the Griffiths or subsequent Valuation Revision Books. There is a Henry Canning mentioned in 1831 census at Carnanbane, but that family appears to be to large to be this Henry. There is mention of a Henry Keenan in Griffiths that might be the same man.

A wife that dies 10 years before her husband, but is apparently a widow.

Some possible baptisms about the correct time for some of the children, but some of them appear in Dungiven which could mean they are associated with the Henry Canning mentioned living in Dungiven during 1831. James 1838, Nancy 1840, Sarah 1845 Dungiven Presbyterian and Margaret 1850, John 1857 in Banagher CofI. So, some baptised as Presbyterians and then latter baptisms and burials as CofI. I also couldn't find a baptism record for Martha, but that could be more to do with the RootsIreland database coverage.

Any help unravelling this would be appreciated.

Simon
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Re: Canning Family - Carnanbane
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 October 15 10:58 BST (UK) »
Just making a start on this...

To date I have Henry Canning (death indexed as Cunning) born about 1794 and died 23rd July 1890. His will was probated in 1893 and gives a death date of 17th July 1893. It mentions a daughter Nancy and sons James and John. I suspect that the will was probated at that time as I have discovered his son James died 3rd June 1893.
The Will of Henry Canning late of Carnanbane County Londonderry Farmer who died 17 July 1893 at same place was proved at Londonderry by Andrew M'Spanon of Killunaght and Alexander Buchanan of Magheramore both in said County Farmers the Executors. Will dated 30 Mar.1887 (signed 31 Mar.) and entry in Will Book gives death date as 17 July 1893.
However, GRONI lists the date as 23 July 1890 (Feeny sub-district).

A wife that dies 10 years before her husband, but is apparently a widow.
Mistakes on certificates do happen. Have you found a newspaper obituary for Sarah?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 October 15 11:21 BST (UK) »
Many thanks aghadowey  :)

GRONI lists the date as 23 July 1890 (Feeny sub-district).
Noted as a farmer of Carnanbane.

A wife that dies 10 years before her husband, but is apparently a widow.
Mistakes on certificates do happen. Have you found a newspaper obituary for Sarah?
I haven't found a newspaper obituary for Sarah, Henry or James. I have only searched the papers on the findmypast site though.

Thoughts are always welcome.
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Re: Canning Family - Carnanbane
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 October 15 20:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,
    This doesn't really help but I am distantly related to the wife of Alexander Buchanan of Magheramore 1842-1920. He was a prominent member of Dungiven Presbyterian church and the family still live in that townland.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 October 15 23:08 BST (UK) »
Hi kingskerswell,

So, it is possible that the Alexander mentioned as an executor is related to your family? From the information that you have gleaned on that family, does there appear to be any possible familial links with Henry's family?

I must admit that I have often wondered when the same surname pops up, if there could be a connection. When Sarah died in 1880, the informant was a Jane McFarland and my Thomas Canning married Margaret McFarland in 1860. The little wheels start spinning and I wonder if Jane and Margaret are somehow related, but McFarland seems to be fairly numerous around the Dungiven/Banagher area.

Thanks for the extra information.
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Re: Canning Family - Carnanbane
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 09:04 BST (UK) »
Scanning, I have done a little research on the Buchanan family but I have not found a Canning connection.

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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 12:14 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for checking kingskerswell.

It was appreciated.
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Re: Canning Family - Carnanbane
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 October 16 00:03 BST (UK) »
The original settlement on the Red River of the North, and now known as Hendrum, Minnesota, was originally called Canning's Landing, and was a stop on the steamboat line (before the arrival of the railroad).  Charles Canning, born in Banagher, co. Londonderry, was one of the original settlers.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 October 16 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hi James,

Thank you for the details about Charles and Hendrum.

The original settlement on the Red River of the North, and now known as Hendrum, Minnesota, was originally called Canning's Landing, and was a stop on the steamboat line (before the arrival of the railroad).  Charles Canning, born in Banagher, co. Londonderry, was one of the original settlers.

Rather intriguingly https://archive.org/stream/historyofclaynor02turn/historyofclaynor02turn_djvu.txt contains some additional details about Charles and it seems he is a son of Robert Canning (c1800-1898) and Mary Wilson (c1821-1904), which is another Canning family. Robert and Mary lived in Tobermore with Robert variously being recorded as the Parish Clerk and then Sexton.

This could be suggesting that Robert and Henry were perhaps brothers.......

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