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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 October 15 07:33 BST (UK) »
The only worry which I have about this, is my own security,  because  my middle name is my mothers  Maiden name.         I do not  like it when a security question is "What is your mothers maiden name?"
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 October 15 07:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ScouseBoy on Sunday 11 October 15 07:33 BST (UK)
The only worry which I have about this, is my own security,  because  my middle name is my mothers  Maiden name.         I do not  like it when a security question is "What is your mothers maiden name?"

Don't you find that there are usually a choice of questions nowadays,I have been asked what was my first pet's name,but sometimes I can't remember!
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 October 15 08:00 BST (UK) »
I read an article about Marriage Dowrys in the 1800's
a Dowry is when the Brides family pass on Estate or money over to the groom as part of the marriage deal .
So - it was not uncommon for the father of the bride to "insist" the brides maiden name was used as a middle name of children so that his family name carried on being recognised and contrary to what we were brought up to believe it was quite common for the proposed bride to be encouraged to get pregnant BEFORE any marriage so that when the father of the bride KNEW his daughter would have children his money wasn't wasted .
this was actually encouraged and not frowned upon .Can you imagine a man giving a lot of money to the Groom and then being told his son in law was in not able to father children .
So that was another reason for middle names being mothers maiden name .
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 October 15 08:23 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ScouseBoy on Sunday 11 October 15 07:33 BST (UK)
The only worry which I have about this, is my own security,  because  my middle name is my mothers  Maiden name.         I do not  like it when a security question is "What is your mothers maiden name?"

There is no need to use your mother's maiden name, do as I do, use a different name that you will always remember.
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COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 October 15 08:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: garstonite on Sunday 11 October 15 08:00 BST (UK)
I read an article about Marriage Dowrys in the 1800's
a Dowry is when the Brides family pass on Estate or money over to the groom as part of the marriage deal .
So - it was not uncommon for the father of the bride to "insist" the brides maiden name was used as a middle name of children so that his family name carried on being recognised and contrary to what we were brought up to believe it was quite common for the proposed bride to be encouraged to get pregnant BEFORE any marriage so that when the father of the bride KNEW his daughter would have children his money wasn't wasted .
this was actually encouraged and not frowned upon .Can you imagine a man giving a lot of money to the Groom and then being told his son in law was in not able to father children .
So that was another reason for middle names being mothers maiden name .
 :)

That probably accounts for one of my lines'predilection for marrying cousins of various degrees, to keep property in the family.
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 October 15 08:28 BST (UK) »
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That probably accounts for one of my lines'predilection for marrying cousins of various degrees, to keep property in the family.

Very common in the 1800's . :)
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 October 15 10:14 BST (UK) »
Another reason not yet mentioned is giving an illegitimate child the father's surname as a middle name.
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 October 15 10:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jim1 on Sunday 11 October 15 10:14 BST (UK)
Another reason not yet mentioned is giving an illegitimate child the father's surname as a middle name.

True. My husband's father was illegitimate but took his mother's married surname, but his middle name was that of his birth father. Imagine the problems that caused with research.

It was brushed under carpet but sort of known due to unusual middle name. But never ever referred to.  It wasn't till last year I discovered truth, though with little to go on his birth father is impossible to find.

An interesting thought, my husband has no claim to his surname.  Then by marriage , myself and kids have wrong surname!

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
 
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Re: Unusual Middle name
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 11 October 15 14:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Jebber on Sunday 11 October 15 08:23 BST (UK)
Quote from: ScouseBoy on Sunday 11 October 15 07:33 BST (UK)
The only worry which I have about this, is my own security,  because  my middle name is my mothers  Maiden name.         I do not  like it when a security question is "What is your mothers maiden name?"

There is no need to use your mother's maiden name, do as I do, use a different name that you will always remember.
One of my. Grandmothers had the same maiden name  as her married name
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