Using DNA to find Scottish GR-GR-Grandfather in Renfrewshire

[ladyk]

Hmm, I thought she died at Andrews Land boarding house? That is what I have recorded here. Is that wrong?

[anne_p]

Caroline's death of Feb 1881 does not give an  exact address. It simply says "Neilston"

The informant was Rebecca Blair,Occupier.
The 1881 census was taken just a few weeks later and Rebecca's lodging house shows as "Andrew's Land"

I fully expect that this is where Caroline died but there's always chance that she died elsewhere in Neilston

[jennywren001]

These are the boarders with Rebecca in 1871....
Marion   Smith   Female 7 1864 Neilston, Renfrewshire
John   Keir    Male   5 1866 Neilston, Renfrewshire
Catherine   Duncan   Female 13 1858   Cotton Mill Worker Lochgilphead, Argyllshire   
Margaret   Dermid   Female 1   1870   Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
Winnow   Maillie   Female 30   1841   Bleacher   Ireland
Jen

[anne_p]

The PR application does not provide much more info than we already have, and the Records for Abbey Poorhouse don't seem to exist anywhere ?

This is what was gleaned:
Son William was born in Neilston in 1870 and Caroline was in receipt of PR from this parish after his birth.
The PR applications prior to 1898 for Neilston have not survived!

Caroline and her son were living in Johnstone, Renfrewshire when they entered Abbey PH on 24 Oct 1871.
Annotated in Pencil at a later date: "AUNT- Mrs Gemmill"
Her 2nd son John was born in the PH on  29 Jan 1872
All 3 left on 18 May 1872 ( total of 7 months stay)

4 weeks later, 14 Jun 1872 when her PR payment of 2 shillings PW ran out, Caroline and both boys were re admitted to Abbey PH.
She was living in Rankine Street, Johnstone at this time
No further info is held on when she left for the 2nd time.

Caroline died in Neilston in 1881 and we have all the info on her 2nd son
Who was Mrs Gemmill/Gemmel in Johnstone and what happened to her first born son, William?
He was almost 2 yrs old when he entered the PH in Jun 1872.

[jonn]

1881. census Industrial School, Albion Street, Paisley, Middle Church, Renfrew.

Wm. Reid, Inmate, Scholar, aged 10 years, M. born Neilston, Renfrew.

Regards,
Jonn.

[anne_p]

Thank you Jonn,
That looks about right.

NB: Ladyk has found the Gemmill/Gemmell family.
This woman was the sister of Caroline's father

[ladyk]

Anne, I do have records indicating that Elisabeth Walker was John Reid's mother (and Elizabeth Reid-Gemmell's). William Reid, her husband, died early in 1851. In that year's census, Elisabeth Reid (age 50) is listed as living with children James, Mary and William and some boarders, one of whom is 5 year old Matthew Gemmell! In 1861 she is also living with 2 sons and 15 year old Matthew Gemmell, among some other boarders. I can't think what the connection is, but there must be one.....

So Aunt Elizabeth Reid Gemmell was perhaps living in Rankine Street, Johnstone and Caroline living with her just prior to her admittance to the poorhouse in 1872? Or maybe Auntie Liz was just the person who brought her there to have her child. Hard to tell unless 1871 records magically surface and I haven't been able to pin those down yet!

K

[ladyk]

1881. census Industrial School, Albion Street, Paisley, Middle Church, Renfrew.

Wm. Reid, Inmate, Scholar, aged 10 years, M. born Neilston, Renfrew.

Regards,
Jonn.

Jonn, thank-you!! This looks as though it could well be William! Oh, I do hope that he made it to adulthood and perhaps had a family. I may still have "cousins" in Scotland after all!

K

[loobylooayr]

 Wonder if this is the same William Reid in 1914
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB2-1LJZ

Lots of good info been found btw. 

Looby