Using DNA to find Scottish GR-GR-Grandfather in Renfrewshire

[ladyk]

Yes, Jen - column five is the parents' names. Elizabeth is crossed out for her mother's name and Caroline written on top of that. Her mother's name was Caroline Fergusson.

[anne_p]

I had a feeling that I recognised this :

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=644369.0

[anne_p]

Apologies to you LadyK, more than 2yrs on...
I do remember sending the death cert for Caroline Reid but, it never occurred to me  at the time that you would need clarification re the note in the margin.

We never did locate Caroline at 1871, nor did we locate her father's death cert.

[Rosinish]

Just a thought,

Have you tried looking for R(ie)d rather than Reid.

Some names with "i" & "e" seem to get turned round at times e.g. Neil/Niel

Annie

ADDED......

For some unknown reason which Monica will verify, there are many missing census records/people in 1871........a mystery 

[anne_p]

LadyK, can you confirm that Caroline was unable to write her name on John's birth cert of 1872?

I have obtained the birth cert for William Reid born 22 Jun 1870 in Neilston.( illegitimate)
 Registered by Mother: Caroline Reid ( Bleacher).
Signed X her mark.
Child was born at Broadlea Banks, Neilston

I have searched 1871 census for Broadlea Banks and found all occupants.
There is no one resembling Caroline or her son at any property in this street.

[anne_p]

When I looked back at the old thread re Caroline Reid, I recall that neither myself or Monica could find very much on her mother Caroline Matilda Ferguson.
Both of us assumed that she could be Irish.
I'm certain that her birth was not on Family Search at 2013 but it's there now!

Caroline Matilda Ferguson b 17 Oct 1820 Old Cumnock
Parents Alexander Ferguson and Agnes McKnight.

Her sister Jane Ferguson b 29 Dec 1824.
Married Thomas Ritchie before 1851

The only census I can find
1851:Daleagles, New Cumnock

Thomas Ritchie   26b Leadhills, Lanark. Coal Miner
Jane Ritchie   26 b wife B Old Cumnock
Agnes Fergurson   55 Mother in Law b Straiton,Ayrshire

[isobelw]

I notice that you say John was born in the Abbey Poorhouse Neilston but his birth seems to be recorded in Abbey, Paisley reg district. The Abbey Poorhouse was located in Paisley ( in Craw Road) and there appear to be records extant for it (copies held at Paisley Library according to the Internet). There appear to be 1881 census lists for the poorhouse but can't see any for 1871. Perhaps Caroline and William were still in the poorhouse in 1871 and the records simply aren't available.
Isobel

[anne_p]

I wondered if that was the case too Isobel, but the first son William was born in Neilston Jun 1870.
The census of 1871 was taken on 2 Apr 1871.
 Caroline's 2nd son was born in Abbey Poorhouse in Jan 1872.


If Caroline was in the Poorhouse between Apr 1871 and Jan 1872, it suggests  that she was in there when she became pregnant for the 2nd time?
Unless she entered, left and re entered over an 18 month period

[isobelw]

Managed to find census records for the Abbey Poorhouse for 1871 and don't see any sign of Caroline, so another dead end I'm afraid.
Isobel