Author Topic: George Newton Spencer (Originally from Glasgow B 1882) Lived Hamburg 1908 - 1980  (Read 2242 times)

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The Company changed its Name to Helmst and Co


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The Company changed its Name to Helmst and Co
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The Company changed its Name to Helmst and Co
    confirming 1943?

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1943

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Company Entry (Supported by AI)

Spencer & Co.
Schiffsmakler = Shipbroker / Shipping Broker

Hmb 36 Esplanade 6

Hamburg postal district 36
Office address: Esplanade 6
One of Hamburg's principal commercial streets near the Binnenalster.

✶ 34 25 55

Company's telephone number.
Person 1 – Karl Helmts

priv. Karl Helmts
Hmb 26 Vikarienweg 8
26 86 24

Translation:

priv. = private telephone/contact
Karl Helmts
Residence: Vikarienweg 8
Telephone: 26 86 24

This suggests Karl Helmts was sufficiently important to be listed under Spencer & Co.

Possibilities:

Partner
Senior broker
Director
Authorized signatory (Prokurist)
Successor-in-waiting
Person 2 – Hans Menzell

Befrachter Hans Menzell
Hmb 39 Willistr. 25
52 07 03

"Befrachter" is very important.

A Befrachter is:

Chartering agent
Freight broker
Cargo broker

In shipping this is a specialist role.

This suggests Hans Menzell was not simply an employee but a named chartering professional associated with Spencer & Co.

Residence:

Willistraße 25

Telephone:

52 07 03

Person 3 – Wilhelm Klein

priv. Wilhelm Klein
Hmb 26 Rumpffsweg 15
26 56 28

Another named individual listed under Spencer & Co.

Again:

Private address
Private telephone

His inclusion suggests he held a significant role within the firm.

Person 4 – George Newton Spencer

Spencer George N.
Othm. Neulandsweg 31
P
G Flottb
49 24 81

This is the most interesting line.

Othm.

Almost certainly:

Othmarschen

An affluent district in western Hamburg.

Neulandsweg 31

George's residence.

P

Likely:

Privatanschluss (private telephone listing).

G Flottb

Almost certainly:

Groß-Flottbek

Another district immediately adjacent to Othmarschen.

So the directory is locating him geographically within the Othmarschen / Groß-Flottbek area.

Telephone

49 24 81

George's private residential number.

What This Tells Us About Spencer & Co.

The company directory entry identifies four key people:

Person   Role
George N. Spencer   Principal / Owner
Karl Helmts   Senior associate
Hans Menzell   Chartering broker
Wilhelm Klein   Senior associate

This is not a random list.

Directories typically only listed people who were important to the business.


If this directory is wartime (or close to wartime), then Spencer & Co. appears to have been a small but established brokerage with at least:

George Spencer leading it.
Karl Helmts in a senior capacity.
Hans Menzell handling freight and chartering.
Wilhelm Klein in another key role.

When you later find:     Helmts & Co. Schiffsmakler

it becomes understandable why the company evolved into Helmts & Co.

Not because the names are similar, but because Karl Helmts was already deeply embedded within Spencer & Co.

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