Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)

[BushInn1746]

With several additions:-

Hello Dave and All

1786 Gateshead
The Father of George Hood, Baptism at Gateshead:-

1) could be the John Hood who later married Barbara Bailey?

2) Or the John Hood occupying the Ship Public House.


Ship Public House
Regarding the Ship Pub at South Shore, Gateshead, occupied in the 1789 Land Tax by Mr Hood, the property of Mrs Clark.

The 1787 Gateshead Directory confirms Mr Hood as John Hood, Publican, Ship, South Shore.

When the 1789 and 1811 Land Tax (from the online transcriptions) are married up side by side, the same premises of John Hood may be those of A. Hood and in different ownership by 1811.

1788
We looked at the 1788 Durham Wills of William Hood, Mariner of South Shields in the County of Durham ...
I give to Elizabeth wife of John Beveridge and to the children of ...
My Niece Margaret Clark Widow of John Clark late of Bishopwearmouth in the said County Cordwainer deceased ...
My Niece Ann Burrell Wife of John Burrell of London Millwright ...
William Hood Burrell Son of my said Niece ... and my Nephew George Son of John Oliver late of Sunderland near the Sea Keelman ...
James Wardle ... silver tankard

Executors: Anthony Harrison and John Wardle of South Shields Gentlemen Joint Executors

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Burrell, Beveridge and John Oliver, as possible family mean nothing to me.

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1772
This 1772 Will of John Clark of Bishopwearmouth who refers to his wife Margaret and has property [his occupation a Baker, does not match Cordwainer, but perhaps he also owned a baking business when his Will was written]

1762 Sunderland H.T.
11th February
John Clark = Margaret Hood

There is even a possibility that Mrs Clark who owned the premises occupied by Mr Hood 1789 Gateshead Land Tax might herself be a nee Miss Hood?
 
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John Hood, Baptised at Gateshead, 1745
According to an f m p transcription there was a John Hood baptism at Gateshead in 1745.

1796 at the Heworth Chapel, in the County of Durham
John Hood married Barbara Bailey, on 20th June. [No other details].

1800 Burials in the Parish of Jarrow
John Hood, Shoemaker, of Blue Quarries, 55 years, buried Heworth, in the Parish of Jarrow.

The 1745 Gateshead Baptism of John Hood, matches exactly the age in the above burial.

Blue Quarries was at Gateshead Fell.

1801 in The Parish of Jarrow, 15th Nov'r
Thomas Sharp married Barbara Hood

This might be Barbara Hood remarrying but the B.T., is not detailed enough to say if she was a Widow or not.

John Hood, Resident of Gateshead 1787
There was at least one John Hood, already resident at Gateshead around the time of 1786 Gateshead, George Hood, baptism.


Comment
No link has been made from the family of George Hood of Selby, to the family of John Hood of Gateshead.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

South Kirkby connection unknown? (Question) Where did Charles ans Maudland meet? as South Kirkby was not on a inland waterway canal or navigable river.

Quote: You above post

'Looks like Hood, did sail South to London.'

Unquote;

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John Hood mariner born 1737 and widower of Selby married Jane Hood or jumped the brush who was buried 1803 in Selby.

Assumptions?

Its assumed by logic the Scarborough to Selby connection was maritime! by river and sea' was the reason this John Hood a born 1737 being a mariner from Scarborough and daughter Maudland Hood was residing in Selby?

(Just trying to to find something by logical reasoning from basic facts because of assumptions could be made like John Hood mariner born Scarborough 1737 and George Hood b 1786 ish both lived in Selby 1812  to 1819 year aforesaid John Hood widower died must have been very near related.)

Dave 

Yes, by river and sea.

Added: Reply 54
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6541301#msg6541301

One of the Muster Roll attachments (Reply #54) of 1785 show John Hood, Master of the Industry in 1785, stating he was born Scarborough and his Abode was Selby.

Other Musters have John Hood, Master of the Industry 1781 to mid 1786.


1) When John Hood of Selby, Mariner (born Scarborough, Muster Rolls) and his Daughter Maudland Hood (born Scarborough) lived at Selby, Maudland's latter time at home before her Marriage in 1794 at Selby, their Landlord was John Spencer Son of John Spencer, Husbandman of Hemsworth and his latter children were baptised South Kirkby.

This is possibly how Maudland Hood got to know Charles Turner or Charles Turner bapt South Kirkby 1770, set up in Selby.

2) We don't need to assume that the John Hood, Father in the 1786 Gateshead Baptism Register might be a visiting Mariner, there was at least one John Hood living at Gateshead (my reply above).

Mark

[dobfarm]

Quote you:

Other Musters have John Hood, Master of the Industry 1781 to mid 1786.

Unquote

So where was John Hood born 1737 of Selby late season of October 1786 or ship/boat was he on.

Its where was the other other John Hood mariner born 1722 of Scarborough October 1786

With the baptism of George Hood October 1786 father John in Gateshead parish being a only single entry of John Hood child baptism would fit a visiting John Hood or like John Hood mariner  living in  Selby port  born 1737  Scarborough the other John Hood Mariner born 1722 Scarborough could have had his home port in Gateshead 1786 (Scenario ->) with Sarah Hammond running a Ship Inn when her husband John Hood was at sea.

Sarah Hammond first marriage (Possible)

Philip Hammond
Marriage  9 January 1751
Westminster, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
Spouses Sarah Spencer

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave and All

Hood had transferred from the Industry to the Jane according to the newspaper.

Hood was only on the Jane vessel for a short period, not long enough to show as Master, before changing to the Master of the Leeds Packet (newspaper).

The Industry was owned or operated by John Jefferson according to the R/H page of the Hull, Muster Roll.

Some entries in Muster Rolls Volumes seem to overlap with the same vessel entry in other volumes. Then suddenly your Master disappears in the Muster Rolls, despite the newspaper showing Hood as sailing.

What I did notice was that the Muster Rolls were recording payments into the Port Pension Scheme of John Hood of Selby. So perhaps you could opt in and out of Pension Payments with the Port?

For Example 16 Sailings with start and finish dates and then a Money value paid into his Pension.

Possibly if you were to appeal your Pension amount later with your list of vessel names. They could check it and say nobody paid in from that vessel on those months?

Or perhaps some vessel operators/owners were not in the Pension scheme or no crew were paying into a pension during that time?

Not every vessel appears in Lloyd's Register either, so possibly the Register only recorded those insured with Lloyd's and/or those vessels going for the vessel worthiness Survey, because it says where Surveyed.

My Grandmother said my family historically had sufficient cash stitched in the mattress.

Therefore, I presume some families kept ransom and claim money in cash, if your client makes a damaged goods or loss claim, it could be settled.

Also if the vessel was taken by the French Privateers (and they used to wait at sea outside Scarborough Port according to newspapers, in the German Ocean as it was then called).

The London Gazette published mid 1700s Vessel names and it gives the ransom amounts demanded as between £250 to £350 to get your vessel and crew back. Some crews starved to death or ill treated in France.

You will see John Jefferson on his 1763 Marriage Licence Bond (I'll attach briefly in a moment).

The Archive had started a project to transcribe fully every name in the Musters with Birthplace, Age and Abode, beginning 1747 but it seemed it will take years to create their database.

Public Record Office / The National Archives
Some of the Board of Trade Muster Rolls BT 98 at The Public Record were filed into Volumes in an incomplete and haphazard fashion and crew names within are not searchable online.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3139

Mark

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark.

So! as this baptism 1786 Geo son of John this was a single only entry of  John Hood baptisms in the Gateshead parish register +/- 10 years, it was unusual for a couple to have only one child those years but not impossible? but unlikely! and unless one on the couple died not long after marriage through illness or the mother died in child birth.

Then you have any vocational traveling visiting John Hood (who could have a regular stopover accommodation residence there) or a resident John Hood being the innkeeper or the cobbler/shoemaker/cordwainer could be the father in the aforesaid baptism.

 The John Hood Ship innkeeper Southshore seems to be linked post John's death to the wealthy Anthony Hood (Also a Ropery business near the Ship inn) Southshore of Newcastle and Gateshead Tyneside area, but nothing seems to be coming up in Wills/probate. Owner Mrs Clark could be a link though.

The surname Roe/Row keeps popping up in your notes at various place and the Northeast.