Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)

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Regarding James Prince of Selby, England, Master of the Aid, Spirit Merchant and Ship owner.
Newspaper, Deaths, December 1808
Last week, Mr. James Prince, of Selby, chief owner of the Brig Aid, a regular trader from York to London.

Some research notes (research Tree attached) to date about James Prince and his Wife Arabella Prince (nee Arabella Wardle). James Prince, Gentleman and Widower, of the Parish of Selby, Yorkshire, married Arabella Sissons, Widow in 1801 by Licence.

Arabella's first marriage: John Sissons of this Parish [Kirk Fenton] and Arabella Wardle of the Parish of Cawood, in 1791, at Kirk Fenton, Yorkshire, England, by Licence.

Arabella born about 1744 - 1745 from the ages given on the transcribed Licence applications, not seen.

At an initial glance only, it seems Arabella might have been baptised as Isabella? But no firm evidence whatsoever.

I cannot find any Wardle, nor Wardale / Wardell link to Malton, Yorkshire and the Jane Wardale mentioned in the Will of James HOOD of Scarborough Proved Dec 1782, Sister Jane WARDALE, alias WARDLE, signed Wardell or Wardele at her marriage.
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Back to James Prince dying Selby 1808.

TNA, Kew, IR 26/431/374 Abstract of Will of James Prince, Spirit merchant of Selby, Yorkshire. Proved in the Court of York, 1809.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7219238

The daughter of the above James Prince was Mary Ann Prince who was present at the 1794 Marriage of Maudland Hood of Selby (Maudland Hood born Scarborough, Yorkshire).

Mark

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The following Will must be linked to the above nee Mary Ann Prince / Mary Ann Foster / Mary Ann Taylor of Selby, her Father James Prince married Grace Marshall in 1767 at Scarborough.

TNA, Kew, England
PROB 11/1721/249 Will of Ann Marshall, Spinster of Scarborough , Yorkshire, 1827
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6393936

In the 1827 Will (written 25th August 1821), Ann Marshall mentions Niece, Mary Ann Taylor and her two children Thomas Taylor and James Taylor. Jane Heward* the widow of Joseph Howard* and Daughter of James and Elizabeth Marshall. My Nephew William Prince. Jane Prince, Sole Executrix. Jane Prince, Spinster, Proves the Will.
* These PCC Wills are copies, one copied Heward and the other Howard.

Looking at Yorkshire on f m p the following look to be the above family:-
1761 12th April at Scarborough by Licence (ages from Licence transcription - Not seen)
James Marshall, 28
Elizabeth Stephenson, 23
Present: John Cornforth (possibly present as a church man)
Elizabeth Witty

1808, at Scarborough, by Licences (ages in Marriage Register)
Joseph Heward, 50, Widower, Ship Builder
Present: Judith Stephenson
Jonathan Huntriss

Joseph Heward
A burial[?] at Scalby but relationships for men don't seem to be given (whereas, Wife or Parent to dec'd is), nor their trade and also James Heward, age, suggests he was 8 yrs older at Marriage (if the burial is the correct one?).
Scalby Burials
Joseph Heward, 64, Abode Scarborough, 28th August 1814
(The Scalby burial age is far too much at odds for me, to be accepted as correct without a secondary corroborating piece of evidence e.g. a Will or M.I., Property Deed, Inquest, or newspaper Notice etc., to link him to the marriage).

Mark

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Advert (summary) 21st September 1778 (In the initial post of this thread)

Mr William Martin in Wakefield;
Mr John Fisher in Leeds;
Mr William Brooke in Selby;
Mr Bowling in York;
Mr Thomas Lowther at Salter-Hebble near Halifax, have a list of Ships sailing to Messrs Perkins and Robinson, Wharfingers, at the Gun and Shot Wharfe, Southwark.

The Ships and Masters were:-

This Set of Ships Consist of
The York Union, Captain, John Jefferson.
Industry, Robert Jefferson.
Rippon, Philip Thompson. 
Ouse, John Coulman.
Bedale, Richard Hinsleff.
Brothers, John Hood.
Nidd, Will. Stephenson.
Selby, Joseph Dean.
Rochdale, --------------------


Next year 1779, only find a John Hood sailing Liverpool:-

Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 1st to the 8th January.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Belfast.


Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 19th to the 26th March.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Waterford.

Of course the Liverpool sailings could another John Hood


According to the 6 February 1780 Letter from Burton & Taylor, Hull to William Martin, Wakefield, Aire and Calder Navigation correspondence, it does state, Bedale, J. Hood, arrived yesterday from London.

Re Hood in February 1780, also found the following:-
HULL, February 12,
Coasters Arrived. ...
; Bedale, Hood , Galeston, Stamford ;


19 March 1782 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, March 16.
COASTERS ARRIVED.  Amity, Harrow ; Industry, Hood ; George, Woodhouse ; John and Mary, Jones, and Queen, Meggitt, from London. Henry, Walton, fr. Plymouth.



27th September 1785, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 22.
COASTERS ARRIVED. ... ; Industry, Hood, from London.


23rd May 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, May 20.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... for London.


22nd August 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, August 19.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... from London.


19th September 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 16.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Staniland ; ... from London.
Coasters Sailed. ... Halifax, Staniland, for London.


3rd October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 30.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Jane, Hood ; Adventure, Smeaton ; and Nottingham, Wilkinson, for London.


31st October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, October 28.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Hood ; ... from London.


26 December 1786 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, December 21.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


29 December 1786 Stamford Mercury
HULL, Dec. 22.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


Hood and also a Godmond are sailing in the Centurion from Hull to Petersburg and London to Petersburg 1788 onward.

Pdf which mentions Hull and Petersburg
http://www.eylhs.org.uk/dl/89/trade-and-shipping-of-eighteenth-century-hull


Stamford Mercury, 5th October 1787
The dock company at Hull, have agreed to form a new dock, spacious enough to contain sixty ships.


Sheffield Register … , 3rd May 1788
HULL
; Centurion, Hood ; … all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen-drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Stamford Mercury, 5th September 1788
HULL, Sept. 1.
Centurion, Hood, for Petersburgh, with woollendrapery, coton stuffs, earthenware, lead, &c. Cave, Jubb, for Riga, with earthenware.


Newcastle Courant, 27th September 1788
Sound List from the 6th to the 13th inst.
Ships    & Captains From        To          Loading
Centurion, Hood    Hull   Petersburgh Goods
Eliza, Gallilee London Riga Ballast


Sheffield Register, Yorkshire, ... Universal Advertiser 28 March 1789
SHIP NEWS.
HULL.
Arrived. ... Centurion, Hood ; ... all from London


Stamford Mercury, 28th August 1789
HULL, August 24.
Lvde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Henry, Strachan ; and Centurion, Hood, all from Petersburg, with deals, iron & c.


Newspaper images so far, Mark

Interesting that after [John] Hood being Master of the Industry, he was then Master of the Jane, which Staniland had been Master of.

Then this ...

1786, Thorne, Yorkshire, 11th April by Licence
John Fisher of Selby married Jane Staniland of Thorne.

1st daughter born Thorne 18th February 1787
Mary Staniland Fisher

2nd Daughter born Selby, 2nd August 1789
Susanna Maria Fisher

Father's Descent
John Fisher of Selby, Bookeeper Son of Michael Fisher of Armin, Mariner, by Hannah his Wife, Dau'r of Samuel Hood of Selby afores'd Surgeon.

Mother's Descent
Jane Daur of James Staniland of Thorne Wharfinger by Susannah his Wife, Dau'r of Thomas Stather of Thorne afores'd Mariner.

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The Muster Rolls at Hull for the Centurion, vessel say John Hood, Abode Selby, was Master.

Leeds Intelligencer, 1st September 1789
HULL, August 29. 
Jason, Stephenson ; Lyde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Hervy, Strachen ; Centurion, Hood ; Hope, Hunter ; Ellison, Hutchinson ; and Latona, Barry, all from Petersburgh, with deals, iron, &c.

Sheffield Public Advertiser, also Stamford Mercury, 5th February 1790
HULL.
Arrived ... Centurion, Hood, from Pernau, with fir, timber, &c.

See attachment
Two later references in ship lists spell the place Pernau.

Today, possibly Pärnu in Estonia.

They were usually sailing across the North Sea (German Ocean) to St Petersburgh from 1788 to 1790 according to the Muster Rolls.

Sheffield Register, 13th August 1790

Ship News.
HULL.
Centurion, Hood ; Elizabeth and Ann, Cockrell, from Memel.

Sheffield Register, 12th November 1790
Hull.
Arrived ... Centurion, Hood, from Memel.


A few days ago lost on the Swin, on her passage from Petersburgh, the ship Perseverance, belonging to Hull, loaded with iron, &c. for London. The men got into the tops, but unfortunately the captain, mate, and three of the men were soon washed into the sea. Four men, the remaining part of the crew, were taken up, by a fishing boat and are arrived at Hull.


It has even been announced that the YORKSHIRE TONTINE, is given up.

It sounds as though it was going to be some type of scheme. Quite a few references to the Yorkshire Tontine online. A list of names appears beneath the paragraph:-

Nath. Cholmley
Tho. Davison Bland
Sam. Francis Barlow
Alexander Hunter
Rich. Wood, junior
Henry Grimston
John Carr
Henry Myers
William Siddall
Tho. Kilby
Tho. Smith
Tho. Hartley
Tho. Wilson
Ralph Hoare
Rob. Sinclair
Geo. Townend
John Lowe
Will. Gray, junior
John Telford
John Fothergill
Rich. Metcalfe
James Suitell
Will. Clark
Will. Hotham
Jerom Dring
Will. Fearne
Will. Bluitt
Theo. D. Garencieres
Anthony Thorpe
George Telford
William Mills.


Mark

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Advert (summary) 21st September 1778 (In the initial post of this thread)

Mr William Martin in Wakefield;
Mr John Fisher in Leeds;
Mr William Brooke in Selby;
Mr Bowling in York;
Mr Thomas Lowther at Salter-Hebble near Halifax, have a list of Ships sailing to Messrs Perkins and Robinson, Wharfingers, at the Gun and Shot Wharfe, Southwark.

The Ships and Masters were:-

This Set of Ships Consist of
The York Union, Captain, John Jefferson.
Industry, Robert Jefferson.
Rippon, Philip Thompson. 
Ouse, John Coulman.
Bedale, Richard Hinsleff.
Brothers, John Hood.
Nidd, Will. Stephenson.
Selby, Joseph Dean.
Rochdale, --------------------


Next year 1779, only find a John Hood sailing Liverpool:-

Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 1st to the 8th January.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Belfast.


Goods Imported at the Port of Liverpool.
From the 19th to the 26th March.
In the Rebecca and Ann, John Hood, from Waterford.

Of course the Liverpool sailings could another John Hood


According to the 6 February 1780 Letter from Burton & Taylor, Hull to William Martin, Wakefield, Aire and Calder Navigation correspondence, it does state, Bedale, J. Hood, arrived yesterday from London.

Re Hood in February 1780, also found the following:-
HULL, February 12,
Coasters Arrived. ...
; Bedale, Hood , Galeston, Stamford ;


19 March 1782 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, March 16.
COASTERS ARRIVED.  Amity, Harrow ; Industry, Hood ; George, Woodhouse ; John and Mary, Jones, and Queen, Meggitt, from London. Henry, Walton, fr. Plymouth.



27th September 1785, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 22.
COASTERS ARRIVED. ... ; Industry, Hood, from London.


23rd May 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, May 20.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... for London.


22nd August 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, August 19.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... from London.


19th September 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 16.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Staniland ; ... from London.
Coasters Sailed. ... Halifax, Staniland, for London.


3rd October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 30.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Jane, Hood ; Adventure, Smeaton ; and Nottingham, Wilkinson, for London.


31st October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, October 28.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Hood ; ... from London.


26 December 1786 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, December 21.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


29 December 1786 Stamford Mercury
HULL, Dec. 22.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


Hood and also a Godmond are sailing in the Centurion from Hull to Petersburg and London to Petersburg 1788 onward.

Pdf which mentions Hull and Petersburg
http://www.eylhs.org.uk/dl/89/trade-and-shipping-of-eighteenth-century-hull


Stamford Mercury, 5th October 1787
The dock company at Hull, have agreed to form a new dock, spacious enough to contain sixty ships.


Sheffield Register … , 3rd May 1788
HULL
; Centurion, Hood ; … all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen-drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Stamford Mercury, 5th September 1788
HULL, Sept. 1.
Centurion, Hood, for Petersburgh, with woollendrapery, coton stuffs, earthenware, lead, &c. Cave, Jubb, for Riga, with earthenware.


Newcastle Courant, 27th September 1788
Sound List from the 6th to the 13th inst.
Ships    & Captains From        To          Loading
Centurion, Hood    Hull   Petersburgh Goods
Eliza, Gallilee London Riga Ballast


Sheffield Register, Yorkshire, ... Universal Advertiser 28 March 1789
SHIP NEWS.
HULL.
Arrived. ... Centurion, Hood ; ... all from London


Stamford Mercury, 28th August 1789
HULL, August 24.
Lvde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Henry, Strachan ; and Centurion, Hood, all from Petersburg, with deals, iron & c.


Newspaper images so far, Mark

Hi Mark,

Seeing everytime I just check 'familyseach website' to see if any new George Hood baptisms 1780 to 1790 have popped up- the George Hood son of John baptism 1786 Gateshead tops the list.

Have you ever checked coaster shipping on the river Tyne docked 1786 in newspapers or books

Basically if Jane Hood wife of John Hood burial 1803 Selby came from that area? with surnames in Wills or marriage witnesses -Like 'Leadlay' surname

Just a though.

Dave

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Hello Dave and All

Baptisms
Black & White scan - Gateshead, B.T.

Colour - Gateshead Register, unfortunately no more detail for any of the events.


1786, 30th September Hull, list
I think we may have looked at the nearest sailing before in the paper, to the Gateshead baptism, as I already have the 1786 Hull list for 30th September, published 3rd October.
(Second line up from the bottom).

John Hood went to London, in a vessel called "Jane", which might belong to Staniland

One vessel called "Jane" in the Payments Book, appears to belong to Jonathan Staniland & Thomas Staniland.


I know we looked in the Master and Vessel indexes for the Muster Rolls for the "Jane" and a John Hood, but there was no listing, but each Muster Roll usually covers a period of months, or even years.


We could only find Thomas Staniland (Master) of the "Jane" in 1789.


From April 1788 onward, John Hood of Selby, was Master of the "Centurion" from Petersburgh, Owner - Hewson and his previous vessel to the "Centurion" was noted in April 1788 as the "Aid" of Captain Prince.

The Muster Roll of the "Aid" Master, James Prince has been checked and no John Hood, so Hood's time as a crew member on the "Aid" was too short for him to appear in the Muster Roll of the "Aid" which we have obtained, by a paid search and digital image.


We never saw any wife, female, nor children named with a crew in any of these Muster Rolls (in the three whole volumes seen) which must have been about a 1,000 pages in total, nor the others where we had a specific Folio number from the handwritten Master and Vessel Name, indexes.


Payments Book
We didn't photograph all the Payment Book pages and there might be more than one vessel called "Jane" using Hull, in the mid 1780s. I was primarily interested in the vessel called "Industry" in this book.

However, the vessel names I & J, might also go onto the adjacent pages, either side of the page photographed, so I will order images of all vessels beginning J, in the Payments Book.


England & Wales Census
In the 19th Century where the crew were on a vessel on Census night in the England & Wales Census, I noticed in the 1871 and 1881 Census accompanying family were named.

Mark

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The 2 John Hood's of Scarborough.

1- John Hood born 1722 going by age on bond allegation 1759 age 37 intent to marry and did to Elizabeth Hood maiden name Scarborough.

1 - John Hood born 1737 by his death age 1819 Selby aged 82.

Which one was a master captain or both were captains

Bearing in mind Sarah Hammond marriage 1778 was London - could the Hull to London coaster ship 1786 be the other John Hood mariner who married Sarah Hammond.

No doubt ships would carry cargo from London straight to the river Tyne or from any port even if the ship was registered in Hull, and therefore Tyneside shipping mid 1780's movement could have had John aboard. If John Hood had a boarding room in Selby 1786 he could have has a female friend called Jane (Later Mrs Hood died 1803 Selby) living in Gateshead parish who he father a child 1786 and John Hood could have been in dock awhile on the river Tyne.

From your newspaper snippet - Coasters ~  Young Maria,and Greathead, sailed for Newcastle.

(Those blooming baptisms Geo son of John Hood 1786 Gateshead - with no other John Hood baptisms of this John Hood being resident having more children in Gateshead parish register +/- 10 years , then no infant or adult burial or marriage of a likely George Hood in later years around Tyneside. - perfect jigsaw pieces that fit but the picture seems wrong.  )

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Thanks Dave

Arrivals at Shields [Nr Newcastle], happen to be in the weekly Newcastle Courant (newspaper Saturday 7th October 1786) 
 

'Young Maria', Greathead ;
'Thomas & Hannah', Thompson ;
'Horn', Stainiland ; 
'Tyne', Guy, from Hull.


On the Hull, Coasters Sailed, regarding Horn it says:- Thorne, Staniland, for Whitby and Newcastle ;


Looks like Hood, did sail South to London.


I will remove the Marriage Allegations Later, if you wish to save the information Dave?


Both John Hood, were listed as "Mariner" only, on their respective 1759 and 1763 Scarborough, Marriage Bonds.


Mark