William Johnston

[Mick Johnston]

I am looking for information regarding a William (possibly Robert) Johnston.  He was my Grandfathers Brother, Samuel Hugh Johnston and they had a sister called Rebecca Ellen Johnston who married and became a Swan.  They once lived in Outram street.  Any help would be useful.

[gaffy]

Welcome to RootsChat. 

Can you be more precise about what you need.  For example, I can immediately see information such as the 1875 marriage of William Swan to Rebecca Johnston in Mullaghbrack Church of Ireland, as I imagine others might. 

To avoid duplication of effort, can you say what you know and what you would like to know?

[Mick Johnston]

Thanks Gaffy but that's the wrong Swan, the Rebecca I mean married James Swan in 1922 while they both lived in Outram Street.  I know that my Grandfather lived in Outran Street in 1930 as my dad was born there, he still lived there in 1932 but died in 1933.  None of the family names I have appear in the 1911 census so I trying to find a link to their parents through William, Rebecca's and Samuel's brother.  I know my great grandfather was Edmond but have no idea who his wife was, when they were married or died.  This is what I am trying to find but am new to this game so am looking for any help I can get.

[aghadowey]

In 1911 there is a Johnston family in Outram St. Belfast- a daughter Nellie (nickname for Ellen) and sons Samuel and William along with daughter May but the father is Edwin John (not Edmond) and all born in Co. Fermanagh- and it's #10 Outram St.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Outram_Street/165899
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001484388/

Johnston Samuel Hugh of 23 Outram Street Belfast labourer died 19 January 1933 at The Belfast Infirmary Administration Belfast 30 October to Mary Jane Johnston the widow. Effects £218 4s.

A James Swann living on the same street-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Outram_Street/165918

[aghadowey]

Johnston family in 1901- all born in Fermanagh but Church of Ireland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Cromac/Jerusalem_Street/969783

[aghadowey]

Dundonald Cemetery (C2 639)
Thomas Connor, age 57, 11 Spruce St., died 23 Nov.1906
Eliza Ellen Johnston, age 49, 12 Outram St., died 13 Apr.1907
Edwin John Johnston, age 64, 36 Outram St., died 2 Feb.1929

Dundonald Cemetery (D1 478)
Samuel Johnston, age 35, 23 Outram St., died 19 Jan.1933 at 51 Lisburn Rd.
A Mary Jane Johnston & others buried in same plot   

See here for full details-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/burialSearch.aspx

[aghadowey]

Based on both census here are children (all Irvinestown district, Churchill sub-district)-
William (6 Nov.1889)
Elizabeth (29 Oct.1890)
Edwin James (5 Mar.1892)
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB68-2WL
Isabella/Mary (6 May 1893)
   ? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBX3-KZV
Samuel Hugh (4 Apr.1894)
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBX5-14Z
Rebecca Ellen (10 Jan.1896)
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBFG-ZPY

Edwin John Johnston m.(23 Oct.1889 Enniskillen district) Eliza Ellen Nixon

[Mick Johnston]

In 1911 there is a Johnston family in Outram St. Belfast- a daughter Nellie (nickname for Ellen) and sons Samuel and William along with daughter May but the father is Edwin John (not Edmond) and all born in Co. Fermanagh- and it's #10 Outram St.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Outram_Street/165899
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001484388/

Johnston Samuel Hugh of 23 Outram Street Belfast labourer died 19 January 1933 at The Belfast Infirmary Administration Belfast 30 October to Mary Jane Johnston the widow. Effects £218 4s.

A James Swann living on the same street-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Outram_Street/165918

Thanks very much aghadowey, I am a little confused as I have a certified copy (issued 6/2/1933) of my Grandfathers marriage certificate and his father is down as Edmond not Edwin.  This might explain why I cannot find him on the census.  I also have Samuel (my Grandfather) living at 36 while Mary Jane lived at 23.  They married in 1929.

[aghadowey]

I'm fairly certain that the details I've posted are for your Johnston family. Note that Edwin Johnston who died in 1929 (Samuel Hugh's father) lived at 36 Outram St. It looks like the family lived in a few houses on that street (not uncommon in an era when most people were renting). You can check the Valuation Revision Books for more clues at www.proni.gov.uk

Added- Johnston is a very, very common name in Fermangh and many of them probably were either Methodist or Church of Ireland (uncle's mother was Johnston from near Boa Island and they were Methodist). Correction- mother was Armstrong but there was a Johnston connection I believe