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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 12 September 15 15:23 BST (UK) »
I agree with Rosie, electoral rolls are and were usually completed in the year before people actually voted, so the 1925 roll would have in all probability completed in 1924.
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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 12 September 15 16:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie

I guess that the Croziers may have moved into the property during 1925, between the Electoral roll being taken and the October birth of my MiL.

I only found the 1925 register by following up on Barry Jackson - it didn't come up under Crozier initially.  My MiL has had a life-long love of theatre, so at least she will appreciate the Barry Jackson connection to the house in which she was born.

Best wishes, Pete.

Lane - in Wiltshire up to 1891
Lane - in Liverpool from 1891
Coventry - on the Wirral and in Liverpool
Mitchell - St Pancras, London
Mitchell - Sheffield
Schofield - Rochdale up to 1925
Wood - Sheffield

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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 12 September 15 16:30 BST (UK) »
I suspect the Croziers had just moved in. If they had just moved from Manchester it may explain why someone from Lancashire was with them.
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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 12 September 15 16:43 BST (UK) »
Good point - thanks, jaywit.

Pete
Lane - in Wiltshire up to 1891
Lane - in Liverpool from 1891
Coventry - on the Wirral and in Liverpool
Mitchell - St Pancras, London
Mitchell - Sheffield
Schofield - Rochdale up to 1925
Wood - Sheffield


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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 13 September 15 14:40 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I have been reading your threads re May Schofield and wasn't sure where to post this - decided on here.
I had wondered who May Crozier was who signed the papers.
May W Crozier married Michel J Broeders in 1917 and had a child David Crozier Broeders in 1918 who died soon after birth. Info from BMD.

In 1918, Wilhelmina Crozier and May Broeders were charged and found Not Guilty of 'wilfully exposing a child'.
The circumstances are reported in the Manchester Evening News, April 29th  1918. 'Foster Child's Death. Maternity Home Owner Prosecuted.'
Briefly, following an arrangement, May had taken a baby from a home in Ashton on Mersey to Derbyshire to be 'adopted'. £10 was handed over. The baby had died soon after and the charges were connected with exposure of the child to the journey in cold weather.
The adoption followed a reply to an advertisement by the Derby woman and MrsCrozier had said that the child referred to in the advert was now settled but there was an unborn one whose mother was agreeable to adoption so in February 1918, the journey occurred.
What could be relevant to you, is that the birth certificate showed an address in Rotherham and there  was no evidence that the mother in question had lived there. It does continue to say that the mother now lived in Blackpool and had given full consent. (I don't understand why there was no explanation re a possible 'false address')
Also, of importance, is that the baby was well kept and clothed.
The article states that the Croziers were acting out of kindness and not reward.
The court register implies that Wilhelmina had twice been fined for taking a child to nurse without informing the Guardians.

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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 13 September 15 15:11 BST (UK) »
That is very interesting Heywood, an excellent find.  ;D   It does look as though Rotherham ** Rochdale could be a complete red herring though and May Schofield could have come from anywhere.

I had seen that May Crozier had married before the 1925 birth that we are looking for and wondered why she was using her maiden name on the birth certificate.

** see reply 25

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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 13 September 15 15:52 BST (UK) »
That is very interesting Heywood, an excellent find.  ;D   It does look as though Rotherham could be a complete red herring though and May Schofield could have come from anywhere.

I had seen that May Crozier had married before the 1925 birth that we are looking for and wondered why she was using her maiden name on the birth certificate.

Rosie
HI Rosie,

Rotherham is in the article and Rochdale is the subject of this query. It could be that addresses etc were fabricated for the birth certificates, according to the newspaper report.
On the other hand all information re May Schofield may be correct. :-\

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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 13 September 15 16:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood, Thank you I had just been reading the two newspaper reports and realised I had Rotherham and Rochdale muddled so had come back here to rectify my mistake.  :)

I think it is still worth chasing up information on the Rochdale thread.  It was good to see that the family were not mistreating the babies.  :)

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Re: Crozier family living at The Grange, 53 Wake Green Road, Moseley in 1925
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 13 September 15 16:10 BST (UK) »
Yes I agree.
I am going to try to get to Rochdale at some point to check if no one else can get there.

I also wanted to point out re the travelling aspect which bothers Pete. It was very possible.
The Croziers possibly had a bit of a business going.
Another interesting thing is that May's child was born April quarter of this same year when all this was happening.
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