William Stephen and wife

[ruthhelen]

Interesting that it's a 50% chance that William Stephens married a Mary 

Quite - the only Mary Ley born in Scotland in the right time period seems to be Mary Ley, born Dec 1820 in Durris, Kincardineshire to Lewis Ley and Jean Duncan. Not sure where the Sibellah comes from though...

Ruth

[loobylooayr]

Interesting that it's a 50% chance that William Stephens married a Mary 

Quite - the only Mary Ley born in Scotland in the right time period seems to be Mary Ley, born Dec 1820 in Durris, Kincardineshire to Lewis Ley and Jean Duncan. Not sure where the Sibellah comes from though...

Ruth

Not sure these are the right folk for Simon's Scottish ancestors  Ley seems to be a Devon/Cornwall name too     Just wondered if Simon had ruled this marriage out.
In my vivid imagination Sibellah was how the vicar/registrar picked up Mary's Scots brogue saying Isabella

[ruthhelen]

Not sure these are the right folk for Simon's Scottish ancestors  Ley seems to be a Devon/Cornwall name too 

Sadly, looks as if you're right - Mary Sibellah Ley was baptised on 19 Apr 1818 in Maker, Cornwall, the daughter of Thomas Hunt Ley and his wife Sarah... sigh... 

Ruth

[simon tree]

THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME
Sorry for begin slow to respond never had so much help
The children you have found for William and Mary are the ones I had found had to look back through my unkempt notes  and agree that three children is a low amount for the time Elsie seems to lived in East Stonehouse all of her married life just across the water from Mount Edgecumbe Farm apart from her time in Greenock
I wonded if William work brought him and Mary to Cornwall even checked military records to no avail he seems to be a farmer 1851 / bailiff 1861/looks like blind on the 1871 census

Simon

[Annette7]

Surely purchasing birth certificate of one of the 3 children would help?   At least you'd have a surname for Mary to help with searching for a) the marriage of William and Mary and b) Mary's baptism.

Annette

[ev]

looks like blind on the 1871 census

FreeCEN has it as Hind ?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=85325.0



ev

[simon tree]

Hi Annette
 Orded birth cert on Sunday morning
Hi ev
 That would fit with his other occupations
Regards Simon

[ruthhelen]

FreeCEN has it as Hind ?

Now I didn't know this - I had to look it up - but seemingly a 'hind' is a Scots term for an agricultural labourer - just goes to show, you learn a little something every day... 

Ruth

[ruthhelen]

Orded birth cert on Sunday morning

Do let us know the answer Simon - I'm starting to feel like I know this family personally 

Ruth