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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 26 September 15 00:53 BST (UK) »
That's interesting background Debra.

sremmus has a public online tree but when viewed is actually private and appears to have much of the info anyway.

Summers / Hopkins & Green / Delbridge / Beven Family Tree

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Cando , On that family tree you mention by sremmus, are there any attached certificates or other actual documents supporting the research? As in Birth, death, marriage certificates?

Can you link it for me or give me a guideline to see it, please.

Sue

 
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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 26 September 15 04:01 BST (UK) »
Sue there are a number of public trees on a subscription only website.  The tree mentioned is recorded as public but has been changed to private.  On the results page for all the DELBRIDGE/GREEN/SUMMERS trees this particular tree shows John GREEN's details including his parents.  There is another public tree with a photo of GWR GREEN nursing a Mark SUMMERS so it is obviously the correct tree.  The SUMMERS/GREEN marriage is on NSW bdm registered at Broken Hill. 

I have pm'd you some links.



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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 26 September 15 04:41 BST (UK) »
This might be the burial at Broken Hill for your grandfather

37414 GREEN George William Robert
Location Rose Garden ROSE 1. 1. 20
Date of Death 26-08-2003
Date of burial 3-7-2003

Sue

And his wife Elizabeth Gladys is interred at the same location

39693    Mrs  E G  GREEN       98 years   Ashes   
Rose Garden    ROSE 1 1    20    
Died 13 Aug 2014
Date of burial 3 Sep 2014    

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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 26 September 15 05:03 BST (UK) »
From the Biographical Index of South Australians - I recommend all information be checked where possible.  This appears to be submitted information.

GREEN Benjamin
Parents Richard and Mary nee ELDERKIN born 1 Nov 1810 Thurleigh BDF ENG and died 30 Aug 1896 Moonta SA
Arrived 1847 on the MARINER
Occupation Farmer, labourer
Lived Munno Para, Salisbury, Moonta
Religion Church of England and Methodist
Married 1/2  11 Oct 1831 Thurleigh BDF ENG Elizabeth nee WYOLDS born c1812 Thurleigh BDF ENG and died  10 Aug 1834
Children William 1832-1916
Married 2/2 29 Mar 1835 Thurleigh BDF ENG Hannah nee GARNER born 11 Sep 1819 Thurleigh BDF ENG and died 5 May 1907
Children Samuel 1836-1925, Mary Ann WEBS 1839-, John Garner 1841-, David 1843-1844, Elizabeth GILLETT 1845-1944, Henery 1848-1848, Jane RISKY 1849-1944, Anney GUNTER/MAN 1851-, Caroline 1852-1852, Caroline 1854-1855, Benjamin 1855-, Henry Daniel 1857-1943, George Thomas 1858-1910, Georgina 1860-1861

http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
GREEN Benjamin, Hannah GARNER (2nd wife), Wm (←1st wife), (2nd→) Sam, My Ann, John Garner, Eliz arrived in SA 25 Sep 1847 aboard MARINER from London via Plymouth

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/SAShips1847.htm
1847 MARINER from London via Plymouth - Captain Rbt. Harland, arrived Port Adelaide on 25 Sep 1847 with 264 emigrants

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article34558165
The Advertiser 7 Sep 1896
DEATHS
GREEN—At his son-in-law's residence (J. Risby), Ryan-street, Moonta, Benjamin Green, aged 86 years 8 months, leaving a wife, 10 children, 63 grand and 87 great-grandchildren.  A colonist of 49 years. Arrived in the ship Mariner. 

Benjamin's burial record at Moonta Cemetery
http://www.coppercoast.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=1656&c=25128

and his wife Hannah
http://www.coppercoast.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=1656&c=26096

There is a headstone and a photograph is available for a small fee.
http://headstones.gravesecrets.net/moonta.html

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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 26 September 15 05:26 BST (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article43610559

The Register   30 Nov 1883
MARRIAGES
GREEN-GIESECKE-On the 28th November, at All Saints' Church, Moonta, by the Rev. J. Stuart Wayland, George Thomas, youngest son of Mr. Benjamin Green, of Scotty's Farm, near Moonta, to Mary Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Mr. Charles Giesecke, of Moonta.

From Biographical Index of South Australians

GIESEKE Charles born 1838 and died Sep 1917 Broken Hill NSW
Arrived 1852
Occupation Butcher  Lived Kooringa
Married 18 Aug 1860 SA Elizabeth Ann nee HARRIS - Parent James
Children 3 sons and 3 daughters

Marriage
GIESKEQ Charles  21 years  Status not recorded  Father William GIESKEQ
HARRIS Elizabeth Ann  18 years  Status not recorded Father James HARRIS
18 Aug 1860
At the residence of James Way, Kooringa   Bur 43/363



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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 26 September 15 05:48 BST (UK) »
That's wonderful information for sremmus, Cando.

I'm sure sremmus will add  all those precious details to her tree at the first opportunity. ;D

South Australian researching  can be difficult without benefit of private resource material.

Thank you for the tips on locating the tree.  I shall have a  look 

Sue
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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 26 September 15 08:12 BST (UK) »
At this stage I have traced parts of Elizabeth Gladys Green's family, my maternal grandmother back as far as 1655. Yes, she passed away last year at the age of 98 in August and her ashes were laid to rest with those of my grandfather (her husband) George William Robert Green (Bread Carter, Soldier, Business Owner and charitable worker).

 I know a great deal about the Giesecke part of the family since their arrival in arrival in Australia as they have been good at taking photo's (some dating from 1800's) with notes written on the back and kept documents to pass on to future generations. Charles Giesecke did not actually use his real first and middle name, he didn't like it so rarely used it.

With the Green part of her family I have Benjamin's parent's Richard Green and Mary Elderkin and his first wife was Elizabeth Wylds. Benjamin and Elizabeth had a child William in 1832 and I have all twelve of Benjamin and Hannah Gardner's children.

I have also been able to easily follow the Delbridge and Moyle side of her family as we still have a lot to do with these relatives. I have folders of documentation from them as well (BDM/Ship Records).

With my grandfather George William Robert Green's family I am trying to find direct ancestors at the moment and will branch out to siblings and their descendants later but am grateful for any information people provide. I am putting the other information everyone has provided to the family to see reactions and I have applied to get copies of some certificates from BDM.

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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 26 September 15 09:02 BST (UK) »
With my grandfather George William Robert Green's family I am trying to find direct ancestors at the moment 

The direct ancestors line we have provided goes like this-

His father was George Edward GREEN who married Caroline BEVAN in 1911.
The father of George Edward GREEN (above) was George Thomas GREEN  and mother was Mary ROBB.

Dates for these events are in the thread, as well as the index numbers.


I am putting the other information everyone has provided to the family to see reactions and I have applied to get copies of some certificates from BDM.

Whatever you may mean by their reactions, I can only hope their opinions on the subject and recollections  (or mis-recollections) do not cloud your view of the facts. ::)


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Re: Mary Robb and George Thomas Green South Australia
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 26 September 15 14:57 BST (UK) »
Through this site and other methods I have managed to fill in my grandfathers family as far back as Mary Robb's great grandparents but still only have George Thomas Green's father.

I am one of the few in the family who does not allow past stories to colour my view on the truth. I always investigate and put accurate information in front of them and explain the process it took to get it. They don't always like it but history is history. Try telling one side of the family that they have Jewish heritage and the other that they are aboriginal. There was a great deal of yelling and ancestral DNA does not lie. ;D