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Offline dawnsh

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #297 on: Sunday 01 November 15 18:51 GMT (UK) »
According to the Lost Cousins newsletter, once you have paid for the record of a household, you won't have to pay for it again if and when new names are revealed either on the "100 yrs + 1 day" birth policy of if someone else provides a death cert.

I for one will be watching the breakfast news in the morning, I'm sure something of this magnitude will feature, and also be keeping an eye on FindMyPast's facebook and blog pages where I'm sure the traffic will be very busy.

I will be sitting back and waiting for the fuss to die down.

It's not as if we only have a month to grab all we need before it disappears.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #298 on: Sunday 01 November 15 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Do we know what time the 1939 Register will be released? ???
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #299 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Do we know what time the 1939 Register will be released? ???
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About 7 PM (with a bit of luck people will believe this and I can have some time playing with it before the rush) or thereabouts.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #300 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Upon reflection, this is not about the cost.  Everyone understands that things have to be paid for.  However, at no point since FindMyPast has starting advertising this since March, at no point did they say that it would not be part of a subscription.  They advertised everything else about the 1939 register apart from the costs.  I know for a fact from what many have said that they, this year, have taken out subscriptions with FindMyPast only because they thought that the 1939 register was going to be included in the subscription.  They were not given any reason to think otherwise as FindMyPast did not inform anyone that viewing was going to be a stand alone cost and pay per view.  It was an underhanded way for FindMyPast to get more subscribers and FindMyPast should have made it clear when they started advertising about the 1939 register that it was not included in subscriptions.  Yes they need to make money and a profit because they are a business, but it's the underhanded way they went about this.  They could have told people right from the start about costs being involved; if they were honest then this is what they would have done.  People can't know that it wasn't part of the world wide subscription when FindMyPast did not advertise that it was not.  At no point on the FindMyPast website did it say anything about costs, nor did it say it was not part of a subscription.  That is dishonest and misleading.  I do realise that some may be affronted by these comments, however, it is a fact that FindMyPast did not disclose the information about costs until the last minute...and there is a reason for this.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #301 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Upon reflection, this is not about the cost.  Everyone understands that things have to be paid for.  However, at no point since FindMyPast has starting advertising this since March, at no point did they say that it would not be part of a subscription.  They advertised everything else about the 1939 register apart from the costs.  I know for a fact from what many have said that they, this year, have taken out subscriptions with FindMyPast only because they thought that the 1939 register was going to be included in the subscription.  They were not given any reason to think otherwise as FindMyPast did not inform anyone that viewing was going to be a stand alone cost and pay per view.  It was an underhanded way for FindMyPast to get more subscribers and FindMyPast should have made it clear when they started advertising about the 1939 register that it was not included in subscriptions.  Yes they need to make money and a profit because they are a business, but it's the underhanded way they went about this.  They could have told people right from the start about costs being involved; if they were honest then this is what they would have done.  People can't know that it wasn't part of the world wide subscription when FindMyPast did not advertise that it was not.  At no point on the FindMyPast website did it say anything about costs, nor did it say it was not part of a subscription.  That is dishonest and misleading.  I do realise that some may be affronted by these comments, however, it is a fact that FindMyPast did not disclose the information about costs until the last minute...and there is a reason for this.

The reason is very simple it is in the terms and conditions and has been since at least April 10 2014, I have just checked on the internet archive!

"Changes to the website or records: We reserve the right to make changes to the website, including the records and services we offer, without notice; however, we would not be in business very long if we suddenly took things away that you've paid for without offering you a decent replacement. If you're a subscriber, you'll be glad to know that you will generally get a lot of new records added to your subscription at no extra cost during the period of your subscription. Sometimes, if we launch a major new collection, we might make a separate charge for it, but this is rare. We may also change prices, make special offers to groups or individuals, or change the number of credits charged to view a record from time to time."

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #302 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:44 GMT (UK) »
After 75 years  I fail to see why there is a need to delete or redact living people?    Current Electoral registers are open registers.

All the current electoral rolls show are names though,unless you're under 18 or older than 70 (past the age of being called up for jury service)

They do not have a personal info that the 1939 register has.
They also  "could" show you as being a Lord, and therefore not qualified to vote for House of Commons elections. And they can show your eligibility to vote in European Elections.  As you say if you are close to your 18th birthday they will show your birthdate.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #303 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Although disappointing...it's unrealistic that this new data set will come without an extra charge...it's happened before....If we bide our time...it will become cheaper...like all new things it will be a novelty at first and if we want the information badly enough we will pay for it...it is a hobby and the costs have to be weighed against the benefits...I'm sure that..in common with many others that there will be mysteries and anomalies in our family history that we would all want to have answers for.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #304 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Personally I'm glad that living or potentially living people are redacted. If I was old enough to have appeared on the register I wouldn't like to think that information about me i.e. exact date of birth was there for anyone to see or use. The Electoral Roll is different, as I was given and took, the opportunity to opt out and so wouldn't show up on a general search.

I think we tend to forget that majority of people are not into Genealogy, so while we want to find out all we can about ancestors, others want to preserve their privacy.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #305 on: Sunday 01 November 15 20:00 GMT (UK) »
It strikes me as inefficient and not cost effective for them to have digitised  100 %  of the records.  Some or many of them may never be requested.
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