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Offline MagicMirror

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #207 on: Thursday 29 October 15 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Interesting.

Here's the link BB was telling us about:
https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/how-to-search-the-1939-register-1426317472.html

I came back to post this but I see you've beaten me to it.
It looks as if we'll be able to extract a fair amount of information by being 'clever' with the search functions.

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #208 on: Thursday 29 October 15 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Interesting.

Here's the link BB was telling us about:
https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/how-to-search-the-1939-register-1426317472.html

I came back to post this but I see you've beaten me to it.
It looks as if we'll be able to extract a fair amount of information by being 'clever' with the search functions.

Yes playing with the search will be useful for both paying and non-paying researchers. It should give us a good idea of the composition of the household and the extent of the redaction of details.


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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #209 on: Thursday 29 October 15 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Funny that i've just read the email they sent and i thought that may be helpful. Also send me a code for 25 % and can only be used once but can apply it in advance if i want. They are hoping! They may have to send a few more codes out at least.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 29 October 15 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Guy,
Thanks for the clarification!
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #211 on: Thursday 29 October 15 18:25 GMT (UK) »
They may have to send a few more codes out at least.

If you check your favourite cashback site you may find they already have  ;)

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #212 on: Thursday 29 October 15 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Interesting.

Here's the link BB was telling us about:
https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/how-to-search-the-1939-register-1426317472.html

I came back to post this but I see you've beaten me to it.
It looks as if we'll be able to extract a fair amount of information by being 'clever' with the search functions.

This is an extract of an email I received. ( apparently I'm supposed to be excited)

From Monday 2nd November, it will be free to search the register and to preview the transcript that includes the person’s name, year of birth, town and county of residence. In addition, you’ll be able to see how many other people lived in the house at the time and how many of them are closed due to being younger than 100 years old and still alive.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #213 on: Thursday 29 October 15 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Info from comments on here:-

https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/how-to-search-the-1939-register-1426317472.html

"We will open records upon receipt of evidence of death, in this case a death certificate. If the individual died prior to 1991 their record will have a D code next to it, and it will be open automatically"


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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #214 on: Thursday 29 October 15 21:44 GMT (UK) »
I got an email today with my 10% discount code for signing to be kept in touch with the news about the 1939.
In addition it shows small images of newspapers, maps etc and a partial image of a handwritten register.
However this register has different information than the transcript the NHS gave me purporting to be a transcript of a household from the 1939 National Register as it gives more information.

I am now determined to access an image for the address I requested in the FoI request to see exactly what was missing.
As this image also shows surrounding houses I now assume that when we apply for a household the image will be trimmed accordingly.

It is to say the least intriguing

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #215 on: Thursday 29 October 15 21:55 GMT (UK) »
So the living weren't redacted previously when you had to pay £45 but now they will be?

I guess it was okay before as the actual 1939 NHS register were the ones giving the info for your £42.

Now we are subject to the rules of Find My Past and how they interpret them.

No, we are not going to be subject to the rules of Findmypast and how they interpret them, we will be subject to what is legally allowed. In the old system everybody was technically redacted as there was no publically available information on people.
You applied for an address or individual. then by using records such as any 1939 Register updates or NHS records they could identify all people who were deceased and release the information on them. When a person was born or how recently they died was irrelevant.
What it looks like is going to happen from next week is that Findmypast are basically contracted to provide the service previously handled by the Government. The Information Commissioners ruling a few years ago was that only information on deceased people could be released (which begs the question as to why the cutoff is 100 years and what would happen if someone over 100 years old lodged a formal complaint). Unfortunately it is a bit unclear as to exactly who will initially be redacted, at least one response seems to suggest that if the updated 1939 National Register (possibly up to 1991) indicates a person is deceased then he/she won't be redacted but I think we have to wait until it runs live to know for certain.

Andy