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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #189 on: Thursday 29 October 15 08:35 GMT (UK) »
The email they sent me said digital images would be fine.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #190 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Only those deaths certs after 1969 show a date of birth (if the informant knew it) any before that date would have an age on it.

"If the informant knew it".. this is where the problem might arise. When I registered my mother's death several years ago, I very nearly got the dob wrong - right day and month but wrong year. How many informants not so closely related have got it wrong, but believed they were right.

And if the registration in 1939 was informant driven (rather than the individual having to produce their birth certificate), how many dobs might be recorded incorrectly, either deliberately or through ignorance of the correct date.
My grandmother celebrated her birthday on the incorrect day (3 days different from that on her birth certificate) for as long as my father and his siblings could remember. It was a surprise to her when in her nineties and she needed to get a copy of her birth cert, that she had been wrong all her life. So she certainly would accidentally have given incorrect information in 1939. As she was born over a hundred years ago her record would be open, but there must be many younger people in the same  situation.

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #191 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Only those deaths certs after 1969 show a date of birth (if the informant knew it) any before that date would have an age on it.

"If the informant knew it".. this is where the problem might arise. When I registered my mother's death several years ago, I very nearly got the dob wrong - right day and month but wrong year. How many informants not so closely related have got it wrong, but believed they were right.


When my mother in law died,we registered her death here,but her sister in Ireland had all the funeral service booklets printed. Because she died in 1997 and her sister knew she had been born in 1917 (they year after her) she said that mum was 80........she died in Feb and her birthday was in August,so a long way off being 80.

If people are very upset at the death,it's hard to think straight when registering death details and can so easily get it wrong.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #192 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Slightly off topic, but still to do with getting birth dates wrong. I know someone who had the word "Mum" tattooed on their arm, together with a rose and the dates of birth and death. However, when they proudly showed it off to their family, they were told by their sister that they had the date of birth wrong by a year. Luckily the tattooist was able to change it.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #193 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:49 GMT (UK) »
The current system run by the 1939 Register Team gives you the full details of the household but excludes any living people. The deceased include people born after 1915. From what I can gather from this thread a person born after 1915 who is now deceased will be redacted is this the case for FindMyPast's 1939 Register? What if a previously unknown member of a household is redacted how do we know that we need to get a death certificate for them if we don't know they're there?


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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #194 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Quite!
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #195 on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm confused now!

Will it show the names of ALL the people living in the house in 1939 but then go on to show full details of just those born after 1915? Or will it only show the names of those born before 1915? If the latter is the case, that means it will show my grandparents living with just one child when in fact they had 6.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #196 on: Thursday 29 October 15 10:21 GMT (UK) »
I'm confused now!

Will it show the names of ALL the people living in the house in 1939 but then go on to show full details of just those born after 1915? Or will it only show the names of those born before 1915? If the latter is the case, that means it will show my grandparents living with just one child when in fact they had 6.

I think we're all a bit confused.  It would have been nice if FindMyPast could have given an example of what we might expect to see.  I would hope we get all the names at least.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #197 on: Thursday 29 October 15 10:28 GMT (UK) »
If you look on the FindMyPast website there is an indication of what you will see from the initial search BEFORE you pay your money to view the actual details.

Preview:

"Phillips Household"
Bolton CB, Lancashire

Lily Phillips born 1898
+2 more people
+1 more person who is officially closed

and then there is a reference number

If you think you know any other person living in this household, then you could do a similar search to see if things match.

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