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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #144 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 22:14 GMT (UK) »
I haven't received any e-mail though I remember signing up to be kept informed.  My first thought about the charges was "will it be free at libraries" - is there any information about that.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #145 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 22:26 GMT (UK) »
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #146 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Even as a current annual subscriber there is no way I will be paying those prices (even with the 25% discount), I currently have 520 credits to use and will use those and then will wait until they bring in monthly/yearly subscription. I remember doing the same when the 1911 census was released as sooner or later FindmyPast added it to their subscription packages which worked out better value and I have no doubt the same will happen here with this.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #147 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 23:05 GMT (UK) »

From the e mail sent today

"The 1939 Register contains the names, addresses and occupations of everyone in England and Wales at the time, and was used as the basis for rationing, identity cards and, in post-war Britain, the NHS.
You’ll be able to discover unique insights into where your family was and what they were doing when the register was taken at the outbreak of World War II, and we cannot wait to make this monumental collection available to you."

But only if they're dead !  - 

I won't be taking up the paltry offer of 10% discount  >:(  And yes, I am a long term subscriber.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #148 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 07:00 GMT (UK) »
Well even with 25% discount as some people mention , it's still expensive but not compared to the original price when requested under freedom of information. I think it's a case of do not ask for a lookup as we can't afford it!
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #149 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 07:54 GMT (UK) »
I think it's a case of do not ask for a lookup as we can't afford it!

As the only provider is FindMyPast and they don't allow us to give details just references as to where it can be found we should not be doing it anyway.
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #150 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 08:18 GMT (UK) »

From the e mail sent today

"The 1939 Register contains the names, addresses and occupations of everyone in England and Wales at the time, and was used as the basis for rationing, identity cards and, in post-war Britain, the NHS.
You’ll be able to discover unique insights into where your family was and what they were doing when the register was taken at the outbreak of World War II, and we cannot wait to make this monumental collection available to you."

But only if they're dead !  - 

I won't be taking up the paltry offer of 10% discount  >:(  And yes, I am a long term subscriber.

Small correction here.
No not "only if they're dead".
There are restrictions, thanks to Tony Blair's Labour Government about what information can be shared on living people and Findmypast like every other business in the country has to abide by those restrictions.
If you want to blame anyone blame them.

However back to the 1939 National Registration, if you furnish FindMyPast withsigned consent from the living person they will be able to reveal that person's information as well.

On the other hand if you want to challenge the law that prevents them releasing that information on the grounds that all the information contained in the 1939 National Registration is available from other sources go ahead.

I was going to in 2009 when I won the Information Commissioner's descision but decided there were other more important things to challenge such as getting access to historic BMD records without having to purchase certificates.

But please remember it costs vast sums of money to licence, digitse, transcribe, index and make these records available to the public.
If companies like FindMyPast do it, surely they have a right to try to recoupe some of that outlay in the few short years they have an exclusive contract to supply the records to the public.

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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #151 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 08:32 GMT (UK) »

From the e mail sent today

"The 1939 Register contains the names, addresses and occupations of everyone in England and Wales at the time, and was used as the basis for rationing, identity cards and, in post-war Britain, the NHS.
You’ll be able to discover unique insights into where your family was and what they were doing when the register was taken at the outbreak of World War II, and we cannot wait to make this monumental collection available to you."

But only if they're dead !  - 

I won't be taking up the paltry offer of 10% discount  >:(  And yes, I am a long term subscriber.

Small correction here.
No not "only if they're dead".
There are restrictions, thanks to Tony Blair's Labour Government about what information can be shared on living people and Findmypast like every other business in the country has to abide by those restrictions.
If you want to blame anyone blame them.

However back to the 1939 National Registration, if you furnish FindMyPast withsigned consent from the living person they will be able to reveal that person's information as well.

On the other hand if you want to challenge the law that prevents them releasing that information on the grounds that all the information contained in the 1939 National Registration is available from other sources go ahead.

I was going to in 2009 when I won the Information Commissioner's descision but decided there were other more important things to challenge such as getting access to historic BMD records without having to purchase certificates.

But please remember it costs vast sums of money to licence, digitse, transcribe, index and make these records available to the public.
If companies like FindMyPast do it, surely they have a right to try to recoupe some of that outlay in the few short years they have an exclusive contract to supply the records to the public.

Cheers
Guy

I and many others appreciate that Guy.  But why are some being offered 10% and others 25% ?

It might have been fairer to offer say a 24 hour search for the £24.95 that way I believe more people would take up the offer.  The credit system is a money spinner, you only have to see how many people, including myself have wasted credits in the past when searching.

As an aside I once had a friend who sold eggs at the farm gate, she always undercut her prices.  She said she'd rather sell more eggs at a lower price than get stuck with them not selling when priced high!  :D  There's logic in there somewhere...
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Re: 1939 National Register??
« Reply #152 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 08:44 GMT (UK) »

But why are some being offered 10% and others 25% ?

As an aside I once had a friend who sold eggs at the farm gate, she always undercut her prices.  She said she'd rather sell more eggs at a lower price than get stuck with them not selling when priced high!  :D  There's logic in there somewhere...

I only got offered 10%. I can't remember how long I've been a subscriber, but it was called 1837online when I started.

As to the eggs, unfortunately they're perishable, so your friend would have been stuck with an unsaleable commodity. 1939 register has a much longer shelf life - however long FindMyPast has exclusive rights.
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