1939 National Register??

[california dreamin]

Here are my questions (and please bear with me on this) -

So I decide to pay to view my chosen household - my grandparents, Mum and her sister.  My grandparents based on their dob will be over their 100 ruling.  My Mum and Aunty under the 100 year rule.  My Mum has passed away, my Aunty still with us.  So in order to see my Mum's information included what exactly do I have prove in order to show she has passed away?  It has been suggested that it would be her dc.  Well what if I don't have it ( I do...but lets pretend I don't)  she died in another country. So does this mean I have apply for her dc? Also, as she was married her dc will show her married name.  Do I then have to supply her marriage cert & a d/c?  What are FindMyPast going to do with the information that I have supplied?  Will they be capturing this information and adding it to some sort of database that they can sell & profit from sometime in the future?  If I can't supply certificates what else do I have to supply?  How do FindMyPast verify we are supplying the correct d/c for the person details we request on the 1939 Register.  IF the d/c dosent match the information on the '39 Register exactly (like dob) will they refuse to allow you access to the information?  Isn't part of the reason we want access the 1939 census to find answers?   How are FindMyPast going to monitor this?

Perhaps this will all become clear on Monday - but I am not happy about having to prove death and give my findings to a multinational company. 

Also, do you think it will still be possible to get the 1939 details from the previous organisation?  For example, but the time I have bought dc/mc, postage, include my time, any travel and whatever else I will near enough up to the original £42 and possibly get more information   

[Guy Etchells]

I and many others appreciate that Guy.  But why are some being offered 10% and others 25% ?

It might have been fairer to offer say a 24 hour search for the £24.95 that way I believe more people would take up the offer.  The credit system is a money spinner, you only have to see how many people, including myself have wasted credits in the past when searching.

As an aside I once had a friend who sold eggs at the farm gate, she always undercut her prices.  She said she'd rather sell more eggs at a lower price than get stuck with them not selling when priced high!    There's logic in there somewhere...

I don't know I got any email offering 10% as I had signed up to be informed about the progress of the 1939 but I understand subscribers to FindMyPast are being offered a 25% discount.
Apparently both groups will receive email on Monday, so there may be more information then.

As to your eggs analogy, FindMyPast have a limited exclusivity contract as they did with the 1911. In reality they have to try to recoup as much of their outlay in this time as they can because after that period the income generated will probably only cover the licence fee they have to pay the National Archives.
That is why Ancestry dropped out of the bidding for the 1911 census and did not take on the 1939 National Registration.
The costs involved are considerably more that the costs involved in keeping hens to provide eggs for market.

Cheers
Guy

[sunnylew]

the time I have bought dc/mc, postage, include my time, any travel and whatever else I will near enough up to the original £42 and possibly get more information   

The thing is, you'd still have to pay £42 on top of all of your certificates if you do it the other way.

I'm disappointed about being charged extra as well, and I agree they could have been a bit more up front about it - but at £7 per household, you can view 6 households for the price of the old way, and you can get it from your own home immediately at the click of a button.

I think there's definitely a glass half full aspect that hasn't had much exposure in these 18 odd pages of posts.

[california dreamin]

Hi sunnylew

Some years ago I was helping someone with their FH research, she was looking for her half brother.  In order to find out further information we requested the 1939 Register details for the household of said half brother's Mother.  She received the details for the whole household (one or two may have been alive) no redactions and no d/c provided by us.

You say £7 to view the whole household, but you might only be looking at one name (that of someone over 100 years) and all the other household members redacted!   

[Old Bristolian]

Does anyone know how the information will be presented? FindMyPast refer to households, but I presume the search facility will be on a single name. Does that mean we get to see only the household that person resides in? The beauty of searching Census' etc is to set thefamily in context - neighbours etc. I don't think FindMyPast have much concept of what Family History means. I only renewed my sub this year with the 1939 Register in mind. In future, I won't be continuing with them

Steve

[stonechat]

When the 1911 Census was released I accessed at the Nat Archives for free

Will wait to see what I can do.

It's a disincentive the cost to look at many households, especially as many people edited out, e.g. my Mum's cousin, who was killed by a bomb in 1940 aged 15

[Chris Dallimore]

The only thing that FindMyPast are guilty of, is not making it clear sooner that a subscription would not include the register. They kept saying that details would be released, but they should have warned any new subscribers that it would not be included.
As for the price, I still remember spending a small fortune when the 1901 census came out!
Before the Internet, family history was not a hobby for all and I remember that accessing records was expensive, time consuming and difficult, especially when I was a teenager with no money!
I'm not sure what I'm going to do as I have lots of potential households on my list, but can't justify the cost.

[Blue70]

The current system provided by the 1939 Register Team has transcripts of households are FindMyPast going to provide transcripts or will they provide images?


Blue

[suey]

I don't know I got any email offering 10% as I had signed up to be informed about the progress of the 1939 but I understand subscribers to FindMyPast are being offered a 25% discount.
Apparently both groups will receive email on Monday, so there may be more information then.

I am a subscriber and have been for several years - will wait until Monday to see if I get another offer.