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Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« on: Wednesday 02 September 15 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi all--
I've posted on here regarding my Irish ancestors before (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=634180.0), and two and a half years later, I still have found out nothing about their roots in Ireland. In fact, I've added a few surnames now that I've had more success with Scottish records. All I know about my Irish connections is that they were born in Ireland. No specific dates or place names, not even a general idea of what part of the country they might have been from. I have spent more money than I could afford at multiple genealogy sites specific to Ireland, even contacted a DNA specialist who claims to be able to pinpoint where families resided. No success whatsoever.

I found out recently that my sister will be teaching in Dublin this Fall, and I'm wondering if there are any resources that might be available there that are not yet online? I am almost ready to give up on finding out more about these families, but wanted to give it one more try if there's any possibility of success.

Thanks for any suggestions!
Alec

Irish surnames I'm investigating:
  • Keenan
  • Rice
  • McClinchy
  • Curran
  • Finnan
  • Carr
  • Grant
  • Dolan
  • McNamee

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 September 15 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for posting the link to your previous thread but you've posted this new one on the wrong board (Resources not queries)- just click on 'report to moderator' and ask for it to be moved to IRELAND board.

Unless you have more details than previously it's difficult to suggest new resources for your sister to check in Dublin.

The Irish Catholic Parish Registers have just been put online recently but you need to select a parish to start browsing the images. Did nothing ever come of the 'County Cork' possibility?

From a quick look at the previous topic it was suggested that the parents' details on the marriage record are likely to be more accurate (rather than from the death details as the informant may not have known the correct information). However, it is possible that the 2 different names for the mother are both correct- if the mother did remarry after the death of her husband (another reason why informant may have given different names). Therefore, since you don't have much to start with yet it might be worth searching for a 2nd marriage of the mother and even a possible death for the father.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 September 15 16:31 BST (UK) »
Wow, that was fast! I reported it to the moderator, and the move was made within minutes. Thanks, KarenM!

Unless you have more details than previously it's difficult to suggest new resources for your sister to check in Dublin.
I found *potential* birth records for Michael Keenan and Mary Curran, but with no other sources, I don't know how to confirm them. Thus, I'm hesitant to state that these ARE their birth records. Here's the information:
Name: Michael Keenan
Date: 9 May 1841
Parish/District: Newry
County: Down
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Terence Keenan
Mother: Elizabeth Rice
Sponsors: William McAlinden, Ellen Rice

Name: Mary Curran
Date: 11 Oct 1839
Address: Rafian
Parish/District: Drumlane
County: Cavan
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Patrick Curran
Mother: Rose Curran
Sponsors: Patrick Timmins, Bridget Johnson

These dates and names roughly match up with what I have, except for the father's name of Terence. So that may completely rule it out, or may simply mean he had a name like John Terence Keenan. I was unsure of how to proceed, so had to just drop that line of pursuit for the time being.

The Irish Catholic Parish Registers have just been put online recently but you need to select a parish to start browsing the images. Did nothing ever come of the 'County Cork' possibility?
I haven't had any luck tracking down potential matches in Cork. My mother always assumed that her mother was referring to the Keenans, but it's possible that she was referring to one of the other families. Based on surname distribution, it looks like Keenan was not at all likely in Cork, but I don't want to eliminate the possibility just based on that.

From a quick look at the previous topic it was suggested that the parents' details on the marriage record are likely to be more accurate (rather than from the death details as the informant may not have known the correct information). However, it is possible that the 2 different names for the mother are both correct- if the mother did remarry after the death of her husband (another reason why informant may have given different names). Therefore, since you don't have much to start with yet it might be worth searching for a 2nd marriage of the mother and even a possible death for the father.
I'll pursue this, as I don't think I ever looked at it from that perspective.

I don't know if this is the right place to mention it, but I recently did a DNA test through Ancestry, and my mother has done one through National Geographic's Genographic Project. Not sure if either of those are likely to be of use in our search.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 September 15 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I would think the DNA test would link you up with other people you share a common relative with. It might not happen quickly, but someone eventually should turn up.

Good luck!
Keane (Westmeath)
Ledwith (Longford/Westmeath)
Gray (Sligo)
Eustace (Louth)
Frost (Suffolk)
Farrar (Yorkshire)
La Favor/Lefebvre (Quebec)
Mineard/Maynard/Mainard/ Maynord (Wiltshire/Monmouthshire)


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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 September 15 09:58 BST (UK) »
There are different sorts of DNA tests that can do different things- some trace the male lines back, etc. Not a subject I'm intereested in but any 'results' will depend on a variety of factors so it's important to know what you can expect to find (or rule out) from a particular test.

Wow, that was fast! I reported it to the moderator, and the move was made within minutes. Thanks, KarenM!

It was actually Sarah that moved the topic for you  ;D
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 September 15 13:47 BST (UK) »
It was actually Sarah that moved the topic for you  ;D

Ah, sorry about that, the message I received didn't say who moved it, and I only saw Karen's name at the top of the Forum. So apologies and thanks to Sarah!

Regarding the DNA test, when I took it, I was more interested in "big picture" information. It was only after I received the results that I became interested in the more recent genealogy angle. Unfortunately, none of my "matches" are very close, so I'm hoping in the future some unknown relative will take the test!

Thanks again!

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 September 15 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi ariedl,

have up uploaded your DNA results to Gedmatch ?
Kehoe/Keogh, Lacey/Lacy, Whelan Wexford Town.  Sanfey-Oylegate Wexford,  Murray Co. Monaghan & Glasgow 7 Dublin, Whitmore-Dublin,  Gaines/Gains & Fox -Dublin,  Cleary/Clery-Dublin & Galway,  Wickham-Dublin, Devine-Glasgow, Kane-Dublin,  Barrett-Dublin & Co. Mayo   Docherty/Doherty-Co. Mayo.  Quirke-Wexford

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 September 15 17:35 BST (UK) »
Another one for you to simply note, in case future leads identify a possible Rochfortbridge County Westmeath link, is a Mary Smyth baptised 9 June 1861, parents Patt Smyth and Mary Curran:

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635268#page/19/mode/1up   

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Re: Genealogy resources in Dublin?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 September 15 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi ariedl,

have up uploaded your DNA results to Gedmatch ?
I have, but I must admit I don't find the site very easy to use. I'll revisit and see if I have any more success this time.

Thanks!