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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 August 15 00:25 BST (UK) »
Seems that John Bernard STEEL didn't serve in WW1.
This listing though from "New Zealand Army Reserves Roll - 1916-1917".

John Bernard STEEL
Occ:  Tailor's Cutter
Residence:   85 Thorndon Quay, Wellington
Classification: [Allocated to each Reservist based on the number of children they had.]
 -- Class C :   (= 2 children)

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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 August 15 03:31 BST (UK) »
Hi again cupcake

I hadn't seen your earlier (very lengthy  ;) ) thread on the Australia Board, before I posted the previous information here.

Having now waded through the many posts of your Australian thread, can see that you've posted (at Reply # 149)  the Death Certificate transcription for John STEEL (father of William H. / Henry C. STEEL and John B. STEEL) ... and that Reply # 150 contains info relating to "John Bernard STEEL in New Zealand".

Usually it's helpful for us to know if "the person / persons, for whom info is being sought, are the subjects of other threads " ... or there are previous details which might assist a search ... (although in this instance it probably means that I wouldn't have happened upon "Henry Charles STEEL" living with his brother in New Zealand).   ;D

Anyway, I hope the extra information I've added here, is of assistance in eliminating (or otherwise) John B. STEEL from your search.

    ~  Lu




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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 August 15 08:37 BST (UK) »
Lucy2

Thank you so much for in depth search for me. I do apologize for not mentioning my Australian thread. Was just wondering if the said John B Steel was married in NZ.

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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 August 15 13:32 BST (UK) »
Lucy2

Thank you so much for in depth search for me. I do apologize for not mentioning my Australian thread. Was just wondering if the said John B Steel was married born in New Zealand.

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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 August 15 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi cupcake

No, John B. STEEL, (otherwise, John Bernard STEEL), was NOT born in New Zealand.

In my Reply # 3 here, I posted what I thought was probably his birth in New South Wales, Australia,
> 1892 - STEEL - John B. - Father: John / Mother: Lizzie :      And also his Death registration 1931 (Sydney, NSW) which gives his parents names as "John J. and Elizabeth A.".
[That same information has also been given in your Australian thread. ]

You have the Death Certificate for his father > John STEEL - saddler - died 31 July 1928 at Sydney, Spouse: Elizabeth Agnes RADCLIFF - Children:  William J. (40), Henry C. (38) and John B. (36) -- Reference #  NSW - 1928/12888 :

John STEEL (a.k.a. John Joseph STEEL) - d. 1928, Elizabeth Agnes STEEL - died 1893, and their grandson, Herbert John STEEL* - died 30 April 1932, are buried at Waverley Cemetery, Sydney.
[Note:  * Herbert John STEEL was the son of John Bernard STEEL and Louise Evelyn STEEL, and brother of Joyce, as per his funeral notice published in "Sydney Morning Herald" - 2 May 1932. ]

So just to sum up >

-  John Bernard STEEL - born 1892 - Sydney, NSW, Australia (s/o John STEEL and Elizabeth Agnes RADCLIFF)

- John Bernard STEEL married 1915 in New Zealand to Louise Evelyn LOVELL (she was born in NZ).
He ran a tailoring business in the suburb of Newtown, Wellington, New Zealand.  Still on electoral roll there in 1928.

- John Bernard STEEL / Louise Evelyn STEEL and Henry Charles STEEL (brother of John B.) all lived in New Zealand until at least 1927-28. [Henry C. STEEL married 1928 in Sydney.   This is Henry Charles STEEL of 40 Excelsior Street, Sydney - as shown on NSW electoral rolls and as informant to death of his father, John STEEL in July, 1928].

I think it is highly unlikely that John Bernard STEEL and his father, John STEEL, have a connection to the "Jack (John) James STEEL" you are seeking.

  ~  Lu

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Re: John Bernard Steel
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 August 15 07:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Lu,

Many thanks for your time, searching :)

Regards

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