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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #99 on: Friday 06 May 16 11:00 BST (UK) »
Tara's reply 44 page 5 this topic
William Lamie,Tobbacconist,4 King St,South.
Glasnevin shows his burial as age 40 in 1885

so therefore the Elizabeth on 1901/1911 census is most likely his widow
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Mansion_House/King_Street_South/1343013/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/King_Street__South/100519/

the proof in the matter would lie in the church register for the Malone/Lamie marriage to get Elizabeth Lamie's maiden name

I must purchase that death cert Dathai..I remember seeing the post but dont know why I didnt follow up on it.
I know that Lamie was years older than Sophia and that was 'one' of the reason's her father didnt want her to Marry William.

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #100 on: Friday 06 May 16 11:18 BST (UK) »
Grizzly1   It seems I have all the same info as you on the Pooles except for the William Lamie which I will research as it is very interesting.   
I have shared all my extensive Poole research with just about all the Pooles in Dublin so there is a great deal of it floating around.
As far as old Frederick's father's name goes I do know in Ireland there was traditionally a very strong naming pattern for the eldest children born into a family.  The eldest son would be named after his paternal grandfather and the second son after his maternal grandfather, the third son after his father.
If this were the case with our Pooles then old Frederick's father would also have been Frederick........and Maria Drake's father would have been Edward.   
Their second son, Edward, is my gr gr grandfather.
Thanks for the info you have shared.

Cariboo would Teresa Lewidge have been your great great Grandmother.?
If so are you aware of who her famous Brother was ?

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #101 on: Friday 06 May 16 12:14 BST (UK) »
her mothers maiden name from marriage register

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #102 on: Friday 06 May 16 12:33 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Lamie showing on Glasnevin index 1932 age 82 when entering King St as address
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml


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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #103 on: Friday 06 May 16 13:26 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Lamie showing on Glasnevin index 1932 age 82 when entering King St as address
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Wonder was she buried with William ??

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #104 on: Friday 06 May 16 16:06 BST (UK) »
From Dathai
William Lammey and Elizabeth Frances Bagnall
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0626c20430641
terribly blurred
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000639782#page/13/mode/1up

Elizabeth Sophia Lammy born 28 Jan 1879 at 4 South King St ,civil index as Elizabeth Frances Lamie
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633497#page/87/mode/1up
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3696350248735

Good info Dathai............I would suggest then that the Elizabeth with daughter Elizabeth in the 1901 and 1911 census at King Street is not our Elizabeth.   
William & Sophia Lamie's(Poole) daughter Elizabeth was born 23 April 1881 and baptised 9 May 1881.  Back to square one, eh?    I think they had 6 children.  Should be able to find one of them.

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 22 September 16 16:09 BST (UK) »
Grizzly1, I don't know who your friend is that you are researching the Poole family for but I have a facebook site Poole Family Research for sharing info about our Poole ancestors.  Your friend may be interested in joining the group.

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Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« Reply #107 on: Thursday 22 September 16 21:44 BST (UK) »
Grizzly1, I don't know who your friend is that you are researching the Poole family for but I have a facebook site Poole Family Research for sharing info about our Poole ancestors.  Your friend may be interested in joining the group.
My Friend's Grt-Grandfather was Edward Michael Poole dob 1908.
Im afraid she is not on F/b, Tbh when my Friend asked me to look into his family history,and I heard his Mother's maiden name and where they originated from (Gloucester Diamond) it started alarm bell's straight away.
Im in daily contact with historian/author who has a keen interest in Joe and the Fenian story, I wont mention his name but im sure you would be aware of it..he was once a local historian/guide for Kilmainham gaol but is now retired.