Fenian Joe Pooles siblings

[Cariboo]

Frederick William Poole and Sophia Fannin had 9 children.  One son was Joseph (Joe) Poole born 26 Aug 1855.  Joe's sister Sophia, born 1852, married William Lamie in 1869.  William Lamie testified against Joe in his murder case.  Joe's wife Elizabeth, nee Hanley, died 2 years before Joe's hanging on 18 Dec 1883.  Frederick William Poole died 3 Aug 1895 of Epithelioma of the mouth.
Joe's siblings were:  Thomas, born 1847, Frederick William Nassau, born 1849, Mary Jane, b 1850, Sophia, b 1852, Frances Anne, b 1853, Charles, b 1857, Samuel, b 1858 and a second Frederick William Nassau, b 1865. 
Sophia died and Frederick married Mary Jane Madden 20 April 1873  and they had:
John (Jack) Denis, b 1874, Christopher Damian Dominic, b 1875, Patrick Joseph, b 1877, David, b 1879, Vincent, b 1881 and Mary Agnes, b 1884. 

[grizzly1]

Frederick William Poole and Sophia Fannin had 9 children.  One son was Joseph (Joe) Poole born 26 Aug 1855.  Joe's sister Sophia, born 1852, married William Lamie in 1869.  William Lamie testified against Joe in his murder case.  Joe's wife Elizabeth, nee Hanley, died 2 years before Joe's hanging on 18 Dec 1883.  Frederick William Poole died 3 Aug 1895 of Epithelioma of the mouth.
Joe's siblings were:  Thomas, born 1847, Frederick William Nassau, born 1849, Mary Jane, b 1850, Sophia, b 1852, Frances Anne, b 1853, Charles, b 1857, Samuel, b 1858 and a second Frederick William Nassau, b 1865. 
Sophia died and Frederick married Mary Jane Madden 20 April 1873  and they had:
John (Jack) Denis, b 1874, Christopher Damian Dominic, b 1875, Patrick Joseph, b 1877, David, b 1879, Vincent, b 1881 and Mary Agnes, b 1884.

Thank you Cariboo..would you know when and where William Lamie died.?

[Cariboo]

I think a lot of people are trying to figure out what happened to William Lamie.  All I know is that he was "spirited away".  I have been unable to find him, Sophia or any of their children in 1901 and 1911 census.

[rathmore]

Joseph Poole was a Dublin Taylor, executed in yard in Richmond Bridewell.  It's to do with the killing of a John Kenny.  You can reed about this on this site.  (It was said after he did not do this)

www.nga.ie

then click on graves, then Fenians, then Invincibles, then Joseph Poole

it is a good read.

[rathmore]

This article say he is buried in the prison grounds in an unmarked grave.

[rathmore]

On this site it say the Poole family in 1950'S wanted to get Joseph Poole a proper grave but they found no remains.

http://www.griffith.ie/Locations/Dublin/History-Dublin-Campus/1813-1892

[grizzly1]

I have carried out extensive research on the Poole family dating back to the mid 1700s and uncovered some great links to the family including a world famous 'celeb' of the mid 1800's  who married into the Family.
Joe's story and indeed the whole Poole family history makes for sad reading, his trial and the events leading up to it has been told by a Kilmainham jail historian called Micheal O Doibhilin.
Its called 'Joe Poole' ..'The Sixth Invincible'.

[grizzly1]

I think a lot of people are trying to figure out what happened to William Lamie.  All I know is that he was "spirited away".  I have been unable to find him, Sophia or any of their children in 1901 and 1911 census.

I believe I know what happened to his Wife and children after Lamie 'disappeared'..I believe they returned to Dublin and I have found them running a Shop.
Lamie had been used in several Trials in England after he gave evidence against Joe, he was brought to Scotland and gave evidence in a Trial against a group known as  'The Dynamiters' on the very day Joe was to be hung.
I also read that Joe forgave William Lamie,I can only assume that it may have been because it was Joe who introduced him into 'The Circle' and perhaps by doing so he felt he was partially instrumental in his own downfall?? (just my own theory)

[grizzly1]

On this site it say the Poole family in 1950'S wanted to get Joseph Poole a proper grave but they found no remains.

http://www.griffith.ie/Locations/Dublin/History-Dublin-Campus/1813-1892

I spoke to a Historian who has a keen interest in Joe's life, he came up with a very interesting theory on why the body wasnt given back to the Poole family not long after Joe was hung.
The family had requested the body return when the Prison became a Barracks, as Joseph had been sentenced to be buried in the confines of a 'Prison' and not a Barracks they probably had a good case...From records and statements of the Execution Its very possible that the Hanging was 'fluffed' and Joes neck was not broken, its very possible that he was strangled due to 'someone' present at the execution hanging onto Joes legs and pulling down while the person on the scaffold pulled on the rope..this would mean the sentence of the court was not carried out.
Now if the Doctor who was present was still alive when Joes body was returned to his family, perhaps If the family had requested an examination of the body by a independent source and that finding found he had been strangled, then those present at the Hanging may have had a case to answer in a court of law ??..not great scenario, especially due to the fact that many people including some eminent public figures believed that Joe was innocent of the crime he was executed for.