Fenian Joe Pooles siblings

[dathai]

Fredericks sponsor above was Joseph's future wife

[taramcdsmall]

It's why I find it so hard to reconcile what William did to Joseph.

Oh to know the full story.

Tara

[dathai]

I would say that Mallon put a lot of pressure on Lamie as you already posted he did try to get out of the country before the trial.
He may have threatened to expose him as an informer and Lamie's life would be under threat if he had no protection from the police,you would need to go into the police files at the archives to get the full gist of what was being said.

[taramcdsmall]

That's my point Dathai.

At this point we only know what was reported in the newspapers and we know how true to fact they are (sarcasm) 

I'm sure there is a movie / book that could be made out of this Poole / Lamie family.

Did Sophia stay in England, did she emmigrate further.

Did William join her after his release in 1883 ?

They certainly don't appear on the records / newspapers, or not that I can see.

Did they change their identities . . .

The questions go on and on . . .

It's a tragic love story, a couple who fought so hard to marry despite their different religions, despite her father's objections, despite her father stabbing her husband.

For Sophia's brother to be hung, in some part at the hands of her husband.

For Sophia to be sent, on a boat with her father inlaw to England, away from her family and friends, for we can only presume her protection.

Did William and Sophia reconcile ~ Did they go on to have a family abroad ?

. . . I'm just intrigued with it all 

Tara

[dathai]

the police files can be very informative some have a form K with them which usually has the prisoners photograph and physical details address etc.
as my brother did when researching our greatgrandfather Matthew O'Neill he looked at Matthews file then believe it or not he went through every man's file that was arrested with him in 1866 this threw up two informers who named Matthew as a head centre for Dublin,it took my brother six months of constant research to find all this.
So any one going there should always check the files of associates of the person you are researching.

[taramcdsmall]

I was helping someone else with their Fenian ancestors and he had a pic of the man in question in his later years.

Anyway, we went through the pics that are available of the Fenian prisoners and lo and behold there was his ancestor !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/thomas-a-larcom-photographs-collection-1857-1866-mountjoy-prison#/?tab=navigation

Tara

[grizzly1]

I would say that Mallon put a lot of pressure on Lamie as you already posted he did try to get out of the country before the trial.
He may have threatened to expose him as an informer and Lamie's life would be under threat if he had no protection from the police,you would need to go into the police files at the archives to get the full gist of what was being said.

Can only Imagine the pressure Mallon was under, he played a masterstroke in playing with the mind of Carey..he brought another prisoner who had 'turned; into the prison yard while Carey was walking about and held in in small talk in full view of Carey..Carey became paranoid and then decided that he would take advantage of the deal on offer before someone else did ..it was then he decided to inform and inform he did giving every detail of the Park Killing and the working of the Invincibles and the Inner circle..
Mallon also attempted to Bribe friends and relatives of the other prisoners in an attempt to implicate Joseph.
I suppose its no wonder Mallon received £1,000 of the reward Kitty.

[dathai]

Sophia Poole 24th May 1852 St Michans (looks like Bole )
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1842-1869_ba_0034
which means Sophia was 16/17 getting married to William L'Amie age 23 in 1869

Frederick William 28th Feb 1849
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/20f3600249615
died age 11 in 1861 buried Glasnevin