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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 August 15 20:17 BST (UK) »
William E Sheen born 1st Q 1899 6d 496 Aston
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 August 15 20:18 BST (UK) »
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I think it would say deceased if father was deceased.

It doesn't always - even if they were - just to make it more difficult for us!
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 August 15 20:28 BST (UK) »
No William Sheen deaths between 1874- 1899 apart from 2 babies.

I have not been able to pin point William Sheen birth about 1876 either there are only 3 possibly ones and I have ruled those out !!
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
WILD-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
GAMBLE-BARNSTABLE.DEVON

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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 August 15 20:51 BST (UK) »
 This may be the   brothers birth ( ie Charley )  Walsall    being a suburb   of Birmingham

Births Dec 1893 

Sheen  Samuel Charles     Walsall  6b 704

  nope not  him   as  he dies  as a baby in dec Qtr 1893


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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 August 15 20:58 BST (UK) »
 Is this one  of the     ones you've ruled  out ??


Births Mar 1877   

SHEEN  William     Birmingham  6d 154

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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 August 15 21:17 BST (UK) »
Yes Jan ,
I ordered the cert
Father John Sheen and Mother Jane Rawlings

I have reserached all this for weeks but now I have no other ideas
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
WILD-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
GAMBLE-BARNSTABLE.DEVON

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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 August 15 21:47 BST (UK) »
 There  are  a few trees  on Ancestry  with William  on , born 1878  , saying   father  is Thomas and mother Mary Need, whose  father  is  given as William Need )   and  pictures  of  Lower Tower St, and  Fillongley   Industrial  School,   where  a  note has been  put   saying William went there when he was 13 .  Thomas Sheen dies in 1887( Free BMD given as  source )  and Mary  remarries  in 1888 to  a Joseph Daniels  . 

 Maybe  William  born  c1878      didn't get  on with stepdad,  and so  put Grandfathers  name   on  marriage   cert ?    The  trees also  state  William  marrying Elizabeth Saunders,  and  have William E Sheen  as their son

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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 August 15 21:58 BST (UK) »

Births Dec 1878   

SHEEN  William Thomas J     Aston  6d 354

 Oh Forgot to mention in  my previous  post  Thomas Sheen  who died in1887 was  born  in Worcestershire  as was Mary Need

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Re: Very confused - parentage of Emma Sheen born 1910 - Help please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 17 August 15 22:27 BST (UK) »
It's that old problem again later census returns and at marriage c 1876 for William prior c 1878, in 1891 aged 13 b Birmingham he is an inmate at Follingley, Meriden, Warwickshire
Census ref RG12/2441/176/4
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