Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?

[missysmum]

Hi,
Excuse me if I get I get this wrong as it is my first post.

I am looking for my elusive gt grandfather, his name was Joseph Cartwright and according to the 1911 census was born in Willenhall, Staffordshire. This is the only census I can find him in, he is on there with wife Elizabeth and daughter Gladys(my grandmother) along with two others.

On his marriage cert to Elizabeth(Lizzie) he states that his father is William Cartwright(locksmith journeyman). The only Joseph Cartwright I can find with a father William with the same occupation is on the 1901 but was born in 1893 so not this one.

But what caught my attention on the same 1901 census is that there is a boarder named Joseph Wootton, born in 1873, with the same occupation I have for my grandfather. I am probably being a bit far fetched here but could he have possible changed his name from Wootton to Cartwright? and how do I try and rule it out (or in).

This is a brick wall I have been trying to crack for a couple of years now, and any help would be much appreciated.

If anymore information is needed let me know.

Thankyou for reading
Yvonne

[rosie99]

I think Joseph Wooton can also be found in 1881 age 7 also in the same household William Wootton Widower age 51 a rim lock maker both bn Willenhall

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3V7-94V

[Willow 4873]

William Joseph Cartwright married Mary Ann Davis 1879

Its looking Joseph must be illegitimate I think that the William Wootton on the earlier census is his grandfather finding his mother and how he ties into the Cartwright side might be a bit tricky

Willow x

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Sorry I can't give a proper researched answer just now,library computer about to shut down.
Nephew John Thompson on 1911 census son of Soloman Thomson and  Leah Cartwright born 1863 Willenhall.
This looks like the family 1871
Stafford St Willenhall
Martha Cartwight 35 boarder  widow Willenhall
Anne 14 domestic servant
William 12
Leah 8
They are lodging with what looks like her parents James and Caroline Taylor. Marriage 29.5.1853 to a Edward Cartwright at St Leonards Bilston .Grandfather William Cartwright.
Will have another look when I have time

Ciderdrinker

[ColC]

1901 - 2, Union Street, Willenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

William   Cartwright   Head   Married   Male   42   1859   Locksmith (Brass Pad)   Willenhall, Staffordshire
Mary Ann   Cartwright   Wife   Married   Female   42   1859   -   Willenhall, Staffordshire,
3 x    Cartwright   Sons   Single   first      1885   Brass Finisher   Willenhall, Staffordshire,
4 x    Cartwright   Daughters   -   last      1899   -   Willenhall, Staffordshire, England
Joseph   Wootton   Boarder   Single   Male   27   1874   Steam Hammer Driver   Willenhall,
Staffordshire

Colin

[Willow 4873]

Just to expand on Ciderdrinkers reply a bit

1891 census Bridge Street, Portobello

Solomon Thomason 49 Key smith b Wolverhampton
Leah Thomason 28 b Willenhall
John James Thomason 11b Willenhall
Leah Thomason 1 b Willenhall

RG12/2238/74/3

These are mixed up with the Wright family next door on Anc***

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

And furthermore Leah's brother is William Joseph Cartwright from the 1901 census

1861 Census Gomer Street Willenhall

Edward Cartwright 28 head b Willenhall key maker
Martha Cartwright 24  wife b Willenhall
Ellen Cartwright 5 dau b Willenhall
Ann Cartwright 3 dau b Willenhall
William Joseph Cartwright 2 son b Willenhall
Fanny Cartwright 5m dau b Willenhall

RG9/2000/19/29

Willow x

[missysmum]

Thankyou all so much,

So I can assume that I am on the right track thinking that Joseph Wootton changed his name to Cartwright?

Would the next step be to find a birth registration for Joseph Wootton, and get birth certificate?

Yvonne

[Willow 4873]

The birth was registered September quarter of 1873 Wolverhampton 6b 594

I suspect his mother is Ellen - she married John Woolaston  21.9.1874 St Matthews Wolverhampton - her fathers name isn't listed

Willow x