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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 August 15 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

The marriage record is on Anc*, here are the details

At the parish Church at Eastleach Turville

30 May 1857 after Banns

Robert SELLWOOD full age bachelor labourer of Eastleach Turville. Father: William Sellwood~ labourer
Ann Jones full age spinster of Eastleach Turville. Father: Thomas Jones~ labourer

Both signed register with X
Witnesses: Enos SELLARDS and Mary Woodwards (X)


Not sure if that baptism is correct, mothers name in the census is Elizabeth, baptism it's ANN  ???

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 August 15 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just checked the marriage record again, although he names himself Robert SELLWOOD his brother ENOS SELLARDS is one of the witnesses.

Robert SELLARD was bapt. 5 Sept. 1830 Southrop, son of William and Ann, father a labourer.

For those who tracked down a baptism, could it be there is a Sellard(s) family and a Selwood family?

claire

Just trying to put this all together then...
The likely family in 1841 is Sellards (William and Elizabeth and children).  Robert married Ann Jones and gave his name as Selwood yet his brother Enos was Sellards.   Robert Sellard was baptized in 1830 as son of William and Ann (not Elizabeth?)




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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 August 15 21:22 BST (UK) »
I went back to the Thomas Selwood that I thought may have been a brother.  He showed up in 1841 and 1851 records as being born in Southrop. That would mean that he was using the same name as Robert but that it wouldn't coincide with the Sellards family in 1841.  I think we're back to Selwood, Sellwood rather than Sellards.

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 August 15 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

Father William was married twice

1) 15 Oct 1824 Southrop ~ William SELLARD to Anne HAYNES
2) 28 Jan 1836       "        ~      "            "      widower to Elizabeth HOPE

On the marriage records, the family were unable to write, (therefore leaving their mark X) which could account for spelling variations in the name, for example ~

Enos SELLARD was actually baptized as AMOS !!
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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 August 15 22:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you Claire.  That does make this a more likely scenario I think.  The suspected brother Thomas does have the same birth year as the Sellard's Thomas so it is fitting together. 

Given your collective experience, are you pretty happy with this match?

Again, thanks for all your help!

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 August 15 22:29 BST (UK) »
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I am a bit more convinced seeing the marriage record. If there were two families ~ Sellwoods and Sellards it would have been a bit of a coincidence that Enos Sellard would attend Robert Sellwoods marriage  :)

Plus all the ages seem to match up etc.

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 August 15 23:39 BST (UK) »
Again, thanks to all who chimed in. 

If anyone would like to continue on this chase, I see an Anc* tree where someone has taken this back a few generations in Berkshire.  Robert's father William appears to be one of about 10 children born in Southrop to a Louis Saillard (of Berkshire) and a Dinah Smith (of Southrop) during the period 1794-1814.  Lots of different spellings for the children too.  I'd love to adopt this research but without access to these parish records I am hesitant to do so. 

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 August 15 00:21 BST (UK) »
Hi

The parish registers for Southrop are on Anc*, here is what I've found

W(illia)m SELLERD bapt. 15 July 1800 son of ROBERT and DINAH Sellerd.

Other children of Robert and Dinah all bapt at Southrop

John and Robert Sellard bapt. 16 Mar 1794
Thomas Sellard bapt. 24 Apr 1796
Ruth bapt. 6 August 1808
Elizabeth bapt. 1 Apr 1804
Jane SILLARD bp. 15 Apr 1806
Mary SILLARDS bp. 2 Sep 1798
Hannah bp. 20 Mar 1802
Robert bp. 21 Apr 1811
Dinah bp. 24 Apr 1814

Robert SELLARD married Dina SMITH both OTP by Licence  5th December 1793

Both left their mark in the register
Witnesses: Thomas Tuckwell and Benjamin Foster or Poster

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Re: Southrop parish birth - SELWOOD, Robert b.1831
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 August 15 00:37 BST (UK) »

Dina Smith baptized 26 Jan 1772 Southrop, parents: Samuel and Elizabeth Smith

Dinah SELLARDS buried Southrop 16 May 1848 aged 78 ( image actually looks like 76 )

Robert SELLARDS Snr. buried Southrop 30 May 1847 aged 79

Not finding a birth for Robert, but the marriage Licence could provide more info.

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