George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 1

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dobfarm and Goughy

I have been trying to digest your posts.

In the Directory of Selby, by Edward Baines. Published in 1822 regarding George Hood, a Cooper and also Jackson, a Tanner it says:-

Coopers.
Farey John, Quay
Hood George, Wren Lane
Scawby George, Millgate

Tanners and Leather Dressers.
Hartley John, Gowthorpe
Jackson Richard, Gowthorpe

Although, in 1835 The Tourist's Companion from Leeds Through Selby to Hull, it says:-

Tanners.
Hood George, gowthorpe
Jackson Mary, gowthorpe

and

IGI for Yorkshire, surname Hood has:-

Ann Hood M. George Jackson  16 December 1816 at North Cave and
Ann Hood M. John Hardcastle Jackson 11 July 1818 at Catton near York

If I am assuming correctly, you are suggesting that there might be a connection regarding the Gowthorpe Tannery from a Jackson, possibly via Ann Hood to George Hood?

Regardless, whether there is, or not, I have had an email back with a price for each copy of those Registry Deeds, which seems very reasonable, explaining how to order them online and you have already confirmed that there are Deeds with the year dates for George Hood at both Gowthorpe and Wren Lane.

I will go ahead tomorrow and get them ordered, they may / may not hold vital clues.

Thanks for you suggestions, Mark

[dobfarm]

The main point about George Hood was the questions of his roots and where his wealth (paper trail ) came from ? was he an apprentice trained trade craftsman in any of these trades as a cooper, brewer or tanner, or was he a businessman who just owned the firm business with trade craftsmen working for him. Brewing and copper barrel maker for the brew could have been the same business at Wren lane Selby. If George had a (his mothers maternal side or her mother) grandmother/mother/sister/cousin/aunty or wife Sarah's family in laws who's deceased husband had been a tanner, then George could have run the business for her or made it part of the Hood Wren lane business.

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dobfarm and Goughy

Thanks for responses.

In the 1814 Selby Land Tax records, George Hood is shown as paying 2 Shillings 4 & 1/2 pence and Mr Petre is the Proprietor (printed off). If I recall, the c.1810 Selby Land Tax are also online and "George Hood" appears there too.

Baines 1822 Directory for Selby, under 'Coopers' puts George Hood at Wren Lane.
Regarding Wren Lane, George Hood was an "occupier" of Two Dwelling Houses, a Carpenter's Shop and Yard, in Lot 15 and his undertenants and a John Green, according to an 1835 Auction Sale advert.

Unless he took risks and had the 'Midas touch', as you say he possibly inherited, for which we hope there is a surviving paper trail, back to relatives, as it appears according to his Will (Proved 1846) he owned property at Wren Lane and Gowthorpe.

John Todd
In 1798 John Todd owned a Tan-Yard, dwelling house, yards and pits at Gowthorpe, Selby.

S E L B Y.
To be SOLD,
Or LETT for a TERM of YEARS,
(To Enter to Immediately,)

A FREEHOLD MESSUAGE or DWELLING HOUSE, in complete Repair, situate in Gowthorpe, Selby, in the County of York, wherein Mr. John Todd, Tanner, now lives, with the Barn, Stable, Bark-Mill and Leather-Room, and Chambers over the same, Drying-Shed, and Tan-Yard containing Twenty-six Pits, and other Conveniences and Appurtenances thereunto belonging.
For further Particulars apply to the said John Todd; or at Mr. Eadon's Office, in Selby aforesaid.
October 16th, 1798

When searching for a possible William Hood (son of George Hood) in the 1841 Census, I came across this William Hood living with a Todd family at:-
Cottingham
Harland Wood House
Robert Todd, aged 50, Farmer, Born same County Y
Jane Todd, aged 52, Y
John Todd, aged 18, Y
Elizabeth Todd, aged 20, Y
Hannah Todd, aged 15, Y
Mary Todd, aged 10, Y
John Todd, aged 65, Y, Ind
William Hood, aged 25, M.S., Y
Allen Jackson, aged 3, Border ['Border' struck out], Y

Whether, there might be a Todd, Hood, Jackson connection, to my George Hood, I cannot say?

Cloughton in 1841
In 1841 at Cloughton there was also a William Hood, aged 25, living with a John Hood, a Farmer aged 70, with wife (I presume) Janie Hood aged 70, with Alice Hood aged 30 and another John Hood, aged 71.

Comments
I definitely agree that ordering the Deeds now, is a must, to see if that leads to other family relationships.

The Worshipful Company of Coopers, London have responded regarding their records and apparently those held in the Guildhall Library / London Metropolitan Archive, relate to London.

Thanks and kind regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark,

Have you checked for miss-transcribed Wood for Hood surnames in any format in Newspapers, Bapt's Marr and burials MI's or any records
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It would suggest/seem something happened between 1822 and 1829 when George got into tanning.

Going by your info of the size of the tannery property and the tanks/pits that can take upto a year soak the leathers that I have seen in/on TV programme doc's over the years. Therefore its a well established business to suddenly get to and if George had bought into the business ? surely there would be advertisements of it sale or portion of the business for sale around 1820's in newspapers otherwise George must have had connections to the business by family  and some knowledge of the business everyday running of the mill so to speak.

( Its like asking a demolition explosive expert in to judge a knitting completion at the village fair  to equal George getting into tanning without prior knowledge of the business running involvement needed )


The 1829 Trades Directory

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby29Dry.html

Brewers & Maltsters

Wood George. Wren lane

Coopers

Hood George. Wren lane

Tanners,

Hartley John, Gowthorpe
Jackson John, Gowthorpe


1834 Selby trades Directory.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby34Dry.html

Only mention is

Tanners,

Hood George, Gowthorpe
Jackson Mary, Gowthorpe



The 1837 Selby trades Directory.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby37Dry.html


Under 'Miscellany of trades'

Hood Jno, tanner Gtp {Gowthorpe)


under 'Brewers and Maltsters'

Hood Geo. Wren Lane

Under 'Tanners'

Hood Geo. Gowthorp

Jackson MaryGtp

[BushInn1746]

Yorkshire Gazette 4th September 1830

SELBY.
To be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT,
FOUR-FIFTH PARTS or SHARES of and
in a MESSUAGE, with the Warehouses and
other Outhouses and Appurtenances, now occupied by
Joseph Audus, situate in Gowthorpe, in Selby, in the
County of York; also two adjoining Cottages or Tene-
ments, occupied by Richard Nutt and Richard Web-
ster, with the Yard and large Garden belonging to,
and occupied with, the above Premises.
The Property is Freehold, has an extensive Front
towards the Street, and is entitled to two Pews in the
Parish Church of Selby.
For further Particulars, apply to Messrs. BLAN-
CHARD and RICHARDSON, Solicitors, York.

I have received my Deeds searches reply and ordered the supplied references. The sale of four out of five shares in a tenement in Gowthorpe, which is divided into three between Hannah Woodcock, George Hood and others. Registered 1831.

I was amused regarding the entitlement to two Church Pews in the Parish Church of Selby, was acquired through purchase!

Regarding Jno Hood, John Hood, Tanner, was George Hood's Son.

Mark

[dobfarm]

Its looking like George Hood may have just bought share parts in an ongoing tannery business then and having no particular family connection of other partners in the business other than his later own children.

J H Jackson master mariner Selby went bankrupt 1810- check newspapers.

Bearing in mind any John Hardcastle Jackson

[BushInn1746]

Maudland Hood Christened Scarborough 24 December 1774 who married Charles Turner, a Blacksmith, at Selby 27 November 1794.

Charles Turner, Blacksmith was aged 24 when he married in November 1794, giving him a birth date of about 1770.

I have found in three May 1851 newspapers that a Charles Turner died at Selby aged 80 and probably likely to be Maudland Hood's husband.

I believe, I have found the same Charles Turner in the 1851 Census at Selby:-
Selby Poor Law Union Workhouse
Charles Turner, Inmate, Widr, Aged 81, Blacksmith, born Yorkshire South Kirby.

1) I would really like to know when Maudland Turner died, as I want to see the exact information recorded in the death entry, whether it be a Parish Register, or getting another GRO Certificate? A George Hood, Hood could have been present at death, with the relationship given?

2) When Elizabeth Turner, 1st daughter was baptised 10 April 1795 (according to the Selby Parish Register transcriptions), her parents were given as Charles and Morland, Selby, Blacksmith.

The transcriptions, number the following sons and daughters born to Charles Turner, a Blacksmith, also a Whitesmith and a Foundryman. They must have had at least nine children.

However, the 1st son and the 2nd, 3rd daughters births are not listed in the Selby transcriptions, suggesting they were born elsewhere?

I should like to know when Maudland died and where, most likely as a Turner, surname?

Thanks Mark

[Goughy]

Hi Mark

Seems you will be "out of luck" with death certificates. 

There is this burial recorded in Selby Abbey records

Mordland Turner (born 1774) buried 27 Oct 1830 Age at death 56

Goughy

[dobfarm]

If this George did not die by 1815 then John is unlikey to be George's dad unless your George is fibbing about his age on 1841c and to the person who record his Death 1845


Baptism George Hood son of John & Elizabeth Hood 1771 Scarborough (BT's)

Can't find a death for this George as infant or adult before 1815

Is


Spencer rings a bell

From familysearch website

 
George Hood X Maudlin Spencer either married in York 12 Jan 1731

or Bond allegation intent to marry held at York

baptism - William Hood son of George and Maudlin 1741 Sarborough (BT's)

baptism - Richard Hood son of George and Magdalene 1745 Sarborough (BT's)