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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 01 September 15 21:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

If you are having them checking the Quaker registers at Leeds University Library   -I would have them check to see if there is a record of George's birth/baptism with parents names foremost !!! ,(If Quakers baptised) as more important than his burial, as other than nice to know it, its unlikely to help find George's parents.
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 02 September 15 12:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

If you are having them checking the Quaker registers at Leeds University Library   -I would have them check to see if there is a record of George's birth/baptism with parents names foremost !!! ,(If Quakers baptised) as more important than his burial, as other than nice to know it, its unlikely to help find George's parents.

Hello dobfarm

Leeds replied this morning and said this ...
 
Thank you for your email. I am afraid that, due to the digitisation of our Quaker indexes, if there were any mention of your relative in the records a name search would bring up the relevant pages of the records. As it is there is no record of a 'George Hood' anywhere within the collection, nor of his wife. I am sorry not to be able to be of more help and wish you luck with the rest of your research.
 
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 17 September 15 18:15 BST (UK) »
Hello All

I am looking generally at the Yorkshire Districts of where other Hood's (currently unrelated) died 1837 to 1850, to see if I can build up Hood clusters and where these are.

I am thinking that, although Hood's were buried in the Selby Abbey floor in the early 18th Century and several Hood's were buried at Selby early 19th Century, George Hood who was resident at Selby before his 1815 marriage to Sarah Russel could have moved from elsewhere in Yorkshire.

I will check if there are any Abbey grave plans. Could those buried in the Crypt or Abbey floor be listed separately?

No Will for, John Hood or Jane Hood
No Will for John Hood, buried 1819 Selby St Mary and no Will for Jane Hood buried 1803 at Selby, at the Borthwick.

No Sarah Hood 1879 Funeral Reference
The Selby Library have checked the Selby Times, but no 1879 Sarah Hood (widow of George Hood) Obituary, or funeral report, so this does not identify their burial place. Sarah is not at Selby Cemetery (opened 1858) according to Selby Council.

George Hood was an Overseer of Poor in 1838
However, I do have:-
a) from the 21 April 1838 Leeds Intelligencer Newspaper, regarding the recent election of Parish Officers in Selby for the ensuing year, George Hood, Wm Staniland, George Richardson and Mr Joseph Twist, were appointed "Overseers of Poor"

Within a short time the Selby Poor Law Union (Selby Union) had built a workhouse and appointed a type of Principal and Matron, where the poor could be put to work, housed and given medical care and meals.

Another 1839 Hood Marriage at Riccall
b) The 24 December 1839 Marriage Certificate has arrived for John Hood, Labourer and Elizabeth Lazenby who both resided at Riccall and were married in the Parish Church in the Parish of Riccall, Yorkshire and registered in the Registration District of Selby.

So nearby Riccall in 1839 was in the Registration District of Selby.

Riccall Question
Perhaps George Hood dying 18 September 1845 may have been distantly related to these Hood's at Riccall and might lie at Riccall and can anyone confirm this, please?
EDIT: Riccall Burials checked by Goughy - see below

Overseer of the Poor
George Hood's brief 1845 newspaper Obituaries suggest he was respected by locals, but I cannot find any later newspaper reference after 1838 to him being an Overseer of Poor, at Selby.

Would a local business person and an Overseer of Poor at Selby, be entitled to burial or a memorial within the Selby Union Workhouse grounds or other place and this is why he is not showing up, at Selby?

If a burial took place in a Crypt or church floor would that usually show up in the Parish Burial Registers, or be shown separately?

The 1837 Selby Poor Law Union came under the Poor Law Commissioners and seemed to be the central administering place for the Selby locality, with 27 elected Guardians, giving 3 to Selby, according to a newspaper article.

By 1838 the 'Overseers of Poor' at Selby numbered four, one being George Hood, according to the newspaper.

Enquiry Made at York Cemetery
I spoke to the chap at York Cemetery opened 1837 and he was fairly confident some Hood's are buried there, so I have emailed for a September 1845 check.

Edit:
Other Checks
According to page 7 and to recap 'dobfarm' has kindly checked the Parish Registers of Selby (again), Barlby and Brayton, for September 1845 at the Borthwick.

Leeds University Collections claim they have no George Hood burial September 1845 in their transcribed electronic Selby Quaker records.

Thanks Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 17 September 15 19:49 BST (UK) »


Hi Mark,

Riccall is still in the registration district of Selby (its about 3 and 1/2 miles from Selby).

There was a Hood family living in the village of Baldersby which is near Harrogate.

Not 100 per cent sure but I think there maybe a memorial stone in St Crux church in York mentioning some Hoods, I will have a look when I get some time.

This link maybe of some help.
http://www.yorkcemetery.org.uk/genealogy/fsopen.htm
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 17 September 15 20:56 BST (UK) »


Hi Mark,

Riccall is still in the registration district of Selby (its about 3 and 1/2 miles from Selby).

There was a Hood family living in the village of Baldersby which is near Harrogate.

Not 100 per cent sure but I think there maybe a memorial stone in St Crux church in York mentioning some Hoods, I will have a look when I get some time.

This link maybe of some help.
http://www.yorkcemetery.org.uk/genealogy/fsopen.htm

Hello Nettie

Oh thanks, yes please I would appreciate you looking in St Crux Church Room, York, when you get chance. I have been stuck for George Hood's September 1845 burial for years and I'm hoping it will possibly lead to an exact date of birth and that his burial place, might possibly be his birth Parish.

On the internet, I have noticed over the years, that two other different Hood branches on their family tree have got back to the 1815 Marriage of George Hood to Sarah Russel at Selby and gone no further back on the Hood side.

My George Hood of Selby death on 18 September 1845, is definitely different to the George Hood of Leeds, a former Soldier, who died earlier in September 1845.

Other George Hood's
There was a George Hood of the Grantham Arms, Milby in 1838.
George Hood of Langthorpe, Corn Merchant, in February 1845
George Hood of this town [in Leeds Newspaper 5 Dec 1835 and following a Bradford Obituary and following an Obituary "On Sunday last" ...] Same day, aged 14, Eleanor Hood, only daughter of Mr George Hood, of this town.

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #68 on: Friday 18 September 15 08:44 BST (UK) »

Riccall Question
Perhaps George Hood dying 18 September 1845 may have been distantly related to these Hood's at Riccall and might lie at Riccall and can anyone confirm this, please?

Have checked Riccall Burial Register - George is not buried there.  MIs don't record any Hood
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #69 on: Friday 18 September 15 09:37 BST (UK) »
If the records survived ???, as an overseer pre 1839  in Selby -George Hood the Overseer administrator, the parish may have kept personal records of George Hood with is birth parish and date of birth on the record.

These records were nothing more than bits & slips of paper kept in a shoe type box them days and all sorts can be found.
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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #70 on: Friday 18 September 15 17:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the Replies and checking Riccall

Do you recall me mentioning that George Hood had appointed his friend Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, as Arbitrator in his Will, (Proved 1846).

In light of George Hood being appointed 'Overseer of Poor' in 1838, you may be interested to know that a Jon. Hutchinson was later recorded as Chairman of the Selby Union Board, in a book by W. Wilberforce Morrell, under a small section titled Selby Poor Law Union.

I expect this connection with the Selby Union, could possibly explain the friendship in George's Will.

George's son John Hood married Sarah Richardson and a George Richardson was also an Overseer of Poor, in Selby.

I have made enquiries regarding any records of the 1838 Elections, of the Overseers of Poor in Selby, so I am hoping they survive and will reveal George Hood's birthplace and date.

Thanks, Mark

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Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 19 September 15 06:10 BST (UK) »
Parish of birth (Big medicine those years) was the authority responsible for the people who was born in the said parish and even if they moved away to another, parish, city or town, this showed more for the parish responsibility of poor folk welfare but also in legal stuff for rich folk.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth