New Zealand History

[Lucy2]

Further to Reply # 27, the record of baptism for Cecilia Margaret LINDHOLT (LINDHOLD), can be found at the FamilySearch site.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927025

Caecille Margarethe LINDHOLT

Christened on :   29 March 1869
At (place) :  Oster Logum, Aabenraa-Sonderborg, Denmark

Father :  Peter Thomsen LINDHOLT
Mother:  Johanne Ulrikka OLSEN*

also ... christened, same place

Anna Maria LINDHOLT - on 30 April 1867

Father :  Peder Thomsen LINDHOLDT
Mother :  Johanne Ulrikka OLESEN **

[Note:   Different spellings of mother's maiden name. ]

[Lucy2]

I couldn't see a marriage between Johanne (Johanna) OLESEN / OLSEN and Peter (Peder) Thomsen LINDHOLT.

However, of interest is the following marriage - at the same place as the LINDHOLT daughters of Johanne (and Peter Thomsen) were christened.   

Peder Thomsen LINDHOLT
Born :  21 June 1839
Parents:  Peter Peterson & Ane Nielsen

Marriage to:  Christine Marie JESPERSEN
Event date :   17 May 1878
Place :  Oster-Logum, Aabenraa - Denmark

Go to familysearch link given in previous post, to access full record.

[Lucy2]

NELSON  /  NEILSON  /  NILSON   :    +  Johanne LINDHOLD (LINDHOLT)

The researcher on the following site, has the 1883 Marriage certificate for Johanne LINDHOLD and Carl Frederick NELSON. 

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SWEDEN/2007-07/1183462276

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

In the Will of Charles Frederick NELSON (Probate file - 1918 -- died at Palmerston North), his son "Charles NELSON" is mentioned. 
[Had searched earlier for the birth of this son, thinking he may have been born to the second wife, Sarah (Christie).]

The rootsweb archived thread of 2007 (link in previous post), gives a son named as
"Charles Frederick NEILSON".   [No NZ birth record cited, but a date of birth - 21 January 1884, and birthplace of "Longbush" (Southland) is stated. ]

This appears to be the birth registration :  [Source : NZ BDM online ]

1884 / 10541 - NILSON - Charlie

Parents:  Johanne and Charlie
[Asssumed from the above that Johanne LINDHOLD (LINDHOLT) is his mother ? ]

[Date of birth, deduced from online index = 21 January 1884 :  NZ Birth Index (at ancestry) has registration place as, Invercargill. ]
[This son married 1905 as Charles Frederick NEILSONand continued to use that version of surname.   Died 1964 - buried at Gore Cemetery - headstone has "1881 - 1964" ]

[Beg Clonrode...]

I couldn't see a marriage between Johanne (Johanna) OLESEN / OLSEN and Peter (Peder) Thomsen LINDHOLT.

Married 7 Sep 1866 in Skrydstrup Church, Gram, Haderslev county as mentioned on their daughter's birth register entry.

Entry no.27
http://tinyurl.com/pyypy6m

... which corresponds with the following banns/marriage announcement

Skrydstrup parish, Gram, Haderslev county
http://tinyurl.com/qat4bdk

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Ruby Mary SWAIN is the person I'm connected to.

Has it actually been shown that Caecilia Margaret SWAIN f.LINDHOLD is the mother of Ruby Mary BURKE b.SWAIN. It seems as though a lot of work is being done in anticipation of the fact but I'm just wondering where is the proof :-)

Findagrave
http://tinyurl.com/nzt4qol

Funeral Notice
Sydney Morning Herald
23 May 1972
http://tinyurl.com/ozb8t9e (just X any annoying pop-ups)

Regards
Beg

[maddys52]

Ruby Mary SWAIN is the person I'm connected to.

Has it actually been shown that Caecilia Margaret SWAIN f.LINDHOLD is the mother of Ruby May HODGES b.SWAIN. It seems as though a lot of work is being done in anticipation of the fact but I'm just wondering where is the proof :-)

Regards
Beg


Yes, exactly what I've been wondering 

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MURPHY/BURKE and McBRIDE family trees (@ ancestry) :

One (or both ?) of above trees have noted the marriage in New South Wales of >

Ruby Mary SWAIN to Henry H. BURKE -- 1912 (NSW)

and her death in 1972. 

Further, there is a note of a birth of a "Ruby Mary SWAIN on 21 November 1891 at Invercargill, New Zealand".   [Using resources other than NZBDM, I haven't managed to find that birth ... yet. ]
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I think Ruby's birth needs to be established with more than just a reference on an existing tree. 

[tigerprawn]

Ruby Mary SWAIN was my Great Grandmother. This info was given to us by her daughter Rita Jean Burke (my grandmother).

I have recently learn that there may be a family Bible that Cecilie wrote the family's names in. I'm about to check with my aunty to see if there was one and if she knows where it is.

[maddys52]

Ruby Mary SWAIN was my Great Grandmother. This info was given to us by her daughter Rita Jean Burke (my grandmother).

I have recently learn that there may be a family Bible that Cecilie wrote the family's names in. I'm about to check with my aunty to see if there was one and if she knows where it is.

Yes, there is reference to a family Bible in relation to Ruby's husband Hercules Henry BURKE here:
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/u/l/June-M-Bullivant-NSW/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0204.html

[carol80]

I have no info on Cecilie's life after she married Swain. I do not know if Ruby was her daughter or who the father was. My main interest was Annie.