Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"

[DavidG02]

Viewing this picture of St Marys Church Walmer doesn't give much back view so I wonder what distance there was between

http://www.lookandlearn.com/history-images/XD136236/St-Marys-Church-Walmer?img=33&search=Walmer&bool=phrase

And here we get , not only a picture of the Strand Walmer way down the page, we get genealogy of the Muddles 

http://www.muddlefamilies.info/harrietsham/23ja.htm

Further looking finds this - pick your eyes over this

[Trishanne]

Like most people I have been looking at Edwardian/ arts & craft houses, but I have just been reading about Queen Anne revival architecture which was from the same period, the end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th century.
Some of the distinguishing features of this period were tile hung walls, bay windows and towers or turrets.
Architects who were active at this time were William Eden Nesfield. J J Stevenson and R Norman Shaw.
This is a house designed by W Eden Nesfield, look at the gables.

[John915]

Good evening,

Well done Cazza, the close ups are a great help. We can now see that there is about 50 ft from the back of the house to the large building at the rear. Looking at the greenhouse and the size of glass it is about 12ft wide.

Behind that is I think the potting shed with a small fireplace with an external chimney. Looking at the bottom of it we see that the ground level is roughly 2ft, 2ft 6in higher than the house.

The larger building is higher still, it has no chimneys so not residential.

The trees show that the prevailing wind is from the left but on the day was blowing in the opposite direction. As shown by the flag style windvane which the wind will always push away leaving the arrow pointing to where the wind has come from.

The "tower to the rear can now be seen to be another chimney but much larger so maybe from a larger fireplace in the principal reception room (inglenook?)

The seagull/pigeon poo may just be marks on the photo as they don't appear to be streaked.

The post is a tennis net post, the other will be just to the left rear of the photographer. If it was for croquet it wouldn't be quite so tall and would have coloured bands for each colour of ball.

As for the dog, what dog, I don't see one anywhere.

John915

PS going to the High Wycombe/Oxford area tomorrow so somewhere different to watch.

[Spidermonkey]

Dog is halfway along photo 11 

[Jool]

There are a few postcards of The Glen, Walmer here.  Can anyone pick out anything useful?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/walmer

[Ruskie]

So many responses since I last visited this thread, so just a few initial comments before I re-readto catch up properly:

I agree that roof tiles may be uneven due to being hand made, however due to differences in chimney styles, brickwork etc I believe this house was added to at various stages throughout it's history. I think there are three different chimney styles visible.

The house with the gable has a glazed window with curtains so I believe it is inhabited. The brickwork appears to have been clad or stuccoed. This may imply an inferior brick was used so this is obviously a 'lesser' building. There is an awning on the right side of that building (similar to those on Cazza's house) at ground floor level, possibly over either a front or back door. There is also a small brick building or lean-to slightly beyond the awning, and an open door which could be a door to a garden or an out house.

It is difficult to judge distance to know if this is a neighbour's house or part of this property. Caz's house is large but not enormous so I am unsure how much staff would be employed post WW1, which is presumably when this photo is taken, to run the house. I very much doubt that the gabled house would be inhabited by stable lads who probably lived above the stables if the family had not moved on to automobiles by this stage.

Just some observations ....

[arthurk]

Like most people I have been looking at Edwardian/ arts & craft houses, but I have just been reading about Queen Anne revival architecture which was from the same period, the end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th century.
Some of the distinguishing features of this period were tile hung walls, bay windows and towers or turrets.
Architects who were active at this time were William Eden Nesfield. J J Stevenson and R Norman Shaw.
This is a house designed by W Eden Nesfield, look at the gables.

Hmm... I hadn't considered Queen Anne revival, but this lends weight to a niggling doubt that I was having: to what extent might architects have copied one region's style when building in another? This rather fine house is in Cheshire, a long way from the south-east.

Against this it might be argued that the large building behind Caz's house looks more functional than architect-designed, and that has the hipped roof typical of the south-east.

Thoughts, anyone?

Arthur

[Ruskie]

I may very well be wrong in this theory, but if the house was built in stages, updated, or improved over the years, then there may not have been an architect's involvement in the design of this house. Not from scratch at least. 

I agree that the house behind is more modest dwelling, and looks like a cottage.

[ScouseBoy]

The small building at the side is a wood shed.