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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:47 BST (UK) »

Is it worth looking at the brick work - can we determine a pattern?  It looks as if there are 5 rows of stretchers, then a single row of headers, then a single row of stretchers and then my eyes go crossed and I lose count  ::)

It looks like some form of English garden wall bond ... but different.  ::)

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 16:21 BST (UK) »
Do the roof tiles look a bit wobbly?

You can almost see the shape of the roof battens in places. Makes me wonder if the building is older than it looks ....  :-\

Maybe attention was paid to updating the frontage, bays etc but not so much with the roof?

Or is that the (rough) nature of clay roofing tiles? :-\

I seem to remember that in the original thread there was a suggestion that the house had been extended at some stage, and you're more or less saying that here. Personally, I'm not so sure...

My understanding of the arts and craft movement (which we think this belongs to) is that there was a conscious effort to reproduce typical English vernacular buildings with all their quirks. So, although these reproductions were very well planned and designed, they may have incorporated features to make them appear as though they had grown organically over the years. In this case, the materials and weathering seem pretty consistent across the main house, so I'm inclined to think it was all built at one go.

The building behind the glasshouse is another matter. Is it much larger, or just on higher ground? It also looks quite a bit newer. But what is it? And would answering that help us identify what kind of group of buildings this is, and thus narrow down the precise ID?

All comments welcome, especially as to whether I am right about the arts and craft MO.

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 16:43 BST (UK) »
Arthur - I agree re the Arts and Crafts movement style.   I think the two tone windows are integral to the design.     

I was also looking at the building behind which has a half-hip or clipped gable and does appears to be a completely different scale  - more like a barn or function area

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 16:47 BST (UK) »
There appear to be two buildings behind the glasshouse.   One of them has got a window  on the sloping roof. Are they known as "roof lights"     or something else?

I have an idea  that may be stables with living accommodation over on the next floor for grooms, stable lads  etc.

No sign of Electric cables supplying the property,  therefore was it before the date of domestic electric supplies?
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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 16:55 BST (UK) »
There appear to be two buildings behind the glasshouse.   One of them has got a window  on the sloping roof. Are they known as "roof lights"     or something else?


I would call them velux windows, but I guess that velux is a trade name for a type of roof light/sky light.

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 17:31 BST (UK) »
I can see the points made about Arts and Crafts architecture but have been unable to find any examples that incorporate a random sash window, markedly different stile chimney stacks, different style bay windows etc, so I still feel this is a much extended, much altered older house. Happy to be proved wrong ;D

I think the tiles also suggest southern England - Sussex and Kent Peg tiles have the look of the tiles on the roof. probably hand-made hence the waviness. Those for the tile hanging look newer and possibly machine made to me.

The brick work, such as you can see of it seems to vary to me.

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 17:44 BST (UK) »
I may be talking out of my backside  :P but on the 'front' house, the wall tiles are two different styles, laid in a pattern.  On the 'set back' house, the tiles are mostly squared off tiles except for a couple of areas where it looks like they have patched bits. 

Also, the brick work on the external chimney breast of the front house is different to the patterning of the set back house.

Like I said, though, I'm probably talking out of my posterior!!  :-*

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Re: Where Am I? No. 12a - Part Two of "Cazza's House"
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 17:45 BST (UK) »

Is it worth looking at the brick work - can we determine a pattern?  It looks as if there are 5 rows of stretchers, then a single row of headers, then a single row of stretchers and then my eyes go crossed and I lose count  ::)

It looks like some form of English garden wall bond ... but different.  ::)

It's Scottish Bond apparently. Although not all the building is the same.
Jan ;)

I agree with you Spidermonkey. What you say, that is,  not that you're talking out of your posterior  :D
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge